When you think thoughts, what do you see?

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This week on Thoughts Off The Stem, Justin dives into a massive realization about the human brain that took him way too long to figure out—and it’s the kind of high thoughts topic that completely changes how you look at the people around you.It starts with a simple question that always derails a good conversation: when you think a thought, what do you actually see or hear inside your head?Most of us spend our entire lives assuming that everyone else’s brain has the exact same default settings as ours. For me, it’s always been a random mix. Sometimes I have a clear inner monologue chatting away, sometimes I see words written out like subtitles, sometimes it’s a movie, and other times it’s just total silence. You assume that’s just how the human mind works.But when you actually bring it up in the circle, reality breaks.You find out one friend has a non-stop, 24/7 internal voice that literally never shuts up. Another person looks at you like you’re crazy because they’ve never heard a voice or seen a visual image in their entire life—they just feel the thought, do the action, and move on. Then you have the people who only think in vivid pictures, or the ones who only see text.If you love a good unfiltered podcast packed with relatable humor and observational humor, this episode is a trip. It turns out we aren’t just interpreting ideas differently. Our brains are literally running entirely different operating systems under the hood.If we can’t even experience the inside of our own foreheads the same way, how the hell are we ever supposed to understand each other? Tune in for some real talk, plenty of sarcastic humor, and the ultimate deep dive into how our minds actually function.Discovering how differently people think—from a constant inner monologue to total visual aphantasia—is a wild reminder of why we need a good cannabis comedy show to break down how weird the human experience really is. If you’re looking for a cannabis podcast that blends cannabis culture with cannabis infused comedy and mind-bending stoner comedy, you’ve found it. This is comedy podcast gold that will have you questioning your own mind.

Could You Survive Prison: Sesh Hypotheticals, Hear Me Out

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Could You Survive Prison: Sesh Hypotheticals, Hear Me Out
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This week on Thoughts Off The Stem, Justin goes down a true crime rabbit hole and lands on the one question every guy has asked himself at least once — could you actually survive prison?

It starts the way all great sesh conversations do. Someone asks if they could take Mike Tyson. Someone else wants to know how many guys they could fight at once. Then that one dude in the circle — you know exactly who he is — announces he’d destroy a pack of wolves, go full Navy SEAL on anyone who touched his family, and could absolutely take five guys at once. Shut up Carl.

But then the real question hits. If we’re all so tough, could we actually survive jail?

The reality check is brutal. You’re not Jason Statham. You’re a blue collar dad who was mowing the lawn yesterday, having tea parties with a three year old, and giving your wife foot massages. Now you’re supposed to walk into the yard and cold cock a gang member with a full dad bod, a touch of arthritis, and zero training.

Yeah. Right.

This one hits different. 🌿

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Everyone Just Wants To Be Right All The Time

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This week on Thoughts Off The Stem, Justin is fired up. Like genuinely, properly fired up.

A UFC commentator texts the president about psychedelics on a Saturday. By Monday he’s in the Oval Office. Men are hitting themselves in the face with hammers to get dates. Africa is literally cracking in half. And somehow in the middle of all of this absolute madness, strangers on the internet decided Justin is a bad dad. Because of comedy clips.

Everyone just wants to be right all the time. Nobody wants to laugh. Nobody wants to look inward. They just want to find a stranger online and unload on them instead of dealing with their own stuff.

This week’s episode is a high energy, zero filter rant about the world, the angry people in the comments, and the one thing everyone needs to hear but nobody wants to say out loud.

Spoiler: the real reason you’re mad at strangers says a lot more about you than it does about them. 🌿

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Swiss Chalet: They’re Supposed to Be Good at Chicken

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Swiss Chalet: They're Supposed to Be Good at Chicken
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This week on Thoughts Off The Stem, Justin takes on the one restaurant that had one job — cook the chicken — and somehow couldn’t pull it off.

A night out at Swiss Chalet with the girlfriend turns into a full investigation when the chicken arrives looking suspicious, the tables are sticky, the host is MIA, and one overworked waitress is holding the entire operation together with sheer will and apologies.

Then the Dude For Real segment takes it further with the most disgusting restaurant horror stories the internet has to offer — bandaid burgers, cockroach coleslaw, salad bugs, and things that will make you seriously reconsider eating out ever again.

Plus this week’s Weed Facts breaks down how to make cannabutter — because after hearing these restaurant stories you’re going to want to cook at home anyway.

You had one job, Swiss Chalet. One job.

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Conned By Cuteness: Kids Are Shapeshifters, Hear Me Out

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They start cute. Cuddly. Irresistible. And then something happens.

This week on Thoughts Off The Stem, Justin breaks down the greatest long con in human history — parenthood. Conspiracy theorists have been out here looking for shapeshifters, and they’ve been right under our noses the whole time. They’re called children.

From adorable babies who trick you into loving them, to teenagers who drain your wallet, ignore your rules, stink up the house, and act like they built it — this is a raw, unfiltered, comedic rant about the reality of raising kids nobody warned you about.

Single dad. Three teenagers. One boy, two girls. Zero chill.

If you have kids, you’ll feel this in your soul. If you don’t have kids, consider this your warning.

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Meta Glasses: Kiss Privacy GoodBye

Meta glasses are cool. Walking through life like you’re in Minority Report is genuinely impressive. But when they’re on, they’re on — and they see everything.

This week on Thoughts Off The Stem Justin Barone breaks down the real world problems that developers and consumers never think about until it’s too late. Meta glasses recording things nobody consented to. Tesla owners blindsided by a $25,000 battery replacement bill. And the fundamental disconnect between building cool technology and actually thinking about how people will use it in the real world.

If you’re recording with your face you’d think — you’d think about that.

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Meta Glasses: Kiss Privacy GoodBye
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Weed Facts this week: The newest cannabis impairment detection technology using VR headsets and eye tracking — boasting 98% accuracy. Your eyes tell on you every time.

Dude For Real this week: Meta workers are blowing the whistle on what they’ve actually seen through users smart glasses. It’s exactly as disturbing as you’d expect.

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We go deeper on the Meta privacy lawsuit, the Tesla battery disaster, Gaize impairment technology and the full Dude For Real breakdown of what Meta workers have actually seen through users smart glasses.

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Give A Big F**k You to Privacy with Meta Glasses
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Give A Big F**k You to Privacy with Meta Glasses
Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy0:01
New tech is pretty awesome, right?
The gadgets.
That come from it are pretty cool, but I have a question.
Do the developers and the consumers really think about the problems once it’s released into the wild?
Because I don’t think that they do dude.
I think that consumers are just more concerned about having the latest flashy gadget and developers are more concerned with how that gadget or technology functions.
0:23
Once it’s released, not the real world application.
And the problems that come with it.
Welcome to Thoughts off the Stem.
Thanks for.
Joining the sesh with me, Justin.
Peroni, I hope that life is being good to you.
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0:41
That’s right, I’m helping you make your sesh.
Better baby.
And this week we’re talking about the technology like meta glasses, Tesla.
Two, you know that that gets released.
That we don’t necessarily think about what the problems.
Are going to be once it’s out there.
0:59
Let’s take meta glasses for.
And for example.
Right.
Once you have them on and they’re on, they’re on.
They see.
Everything dude, and as cool as it would be to like.
Walk through life like you’re in Minority Report or Free Guy and you just, you know, you can like swipe as you’re walking down the street.
1:16
Check your social media, do an e-mail.
Whatever it is, that shit’s pretty cool.
I got it.
I want it too.
But they’re always on, man.
So like.
If you go to shave your balls and you forget.
That you’ve got them on.
Guess what?
That’s going in the meta database, baby your.
1:34
Balls and your technique are there forever.
I remember when I was a kid, because I have a heart condition, I had to use it.
Like I had to wear a halter monitor on checkup sometimes and I was.
Worried and like from the ages of 14 to 18 that the doctors could tell when I, you know, tried to rub.
1:53
One out like because.
Whose heart rate spikes at 10:30 at night when you’re supposed to be sleeping as a 1415 year old?
Yeah, that’s right.
That’s me.
I wasn’t.
Boning anybody but I was worried about it so.
Think about it.
In terms of this, now that technology is wearable, right, Meta glasses are the latest wearable tech, and they’re supposed to like really, you know, move technology forward.
2:20
But if you forget to take one off and you sneak off to go play with your.
Pecker for an hour and those you’ve shot your own POV porn basically right?
How do we not think that this?
Is like it this?
Where are you not worried about this?
2:37
People, when they buy stuff like that don’t.
Think about it.
They don’t think about it at all.
It’s like it’s.
Like back when Tesla first came out and people started the the first generation owners.
Would go in for.
A service.
And they find out that the battery’s dying like it’s a.
2:53
It’s an electronic.
Device and now all of a sudden you have.
A25K Bill because you have to replace your engine.
Like what are we talking about here?
Do people?
Need to think man.
Like if I go buy a car, I’m asking some questions.
I’m asking what the service?
3:08
What the services?
Are what the?
Cost of repairs are.
And whether I should worry about engine, how long it’s going to?
Last, the same thing with electronics, don’t you?
Generally ask like.
Hey, what, how?
What is the like?
What’s the?
The recharge period What?
3:24
Do I need to know for urging this what?
How?
Long is the.
Battery life like.
If you buy a Tesla.
Which is basically a large piece of electronic.
Equipment aren’t isn’t that like one of the first things that you’re going to ask?
You think they’re?
Just going to give you a.
Free engine, like you can’t go to Ford with the OR I mean Ford with a Mustang.
3:41
OK, and and.
Go Oh my engine blew.
Can you give me a new one?
No, you’ve got to buy a new engine.
Like nobody asked this, nobody thought about it, nobody.
Nobody took.
Into account.
That this was happening right and now.
People aren’t.
Taking into account when you.
Buy things like.
3:57
Meta glasses, they’re always.
Recording man, they record.
Everything you do, that’s fucking terrifying.
It’s terrifying as as a person that like if I see somebody walking down the street, they’re recording to me, maybe I’m doing something I shouldn’t do.
You can.
I don’t like the idea that we are in.
4:14
Minority Report, dude, we’re going to start.
Getting ping for crimes as people walk down the street.
It’s crazy.
It’s crazy.
It’s crazy dude.
You forget about the fact that you you know that these things are all all have components that die and suffer or.
4:38
Components that record.
Constantly and then.
We, we don’t think about the problem that happens later on once it’s being used on a regular basis.
Like for example, you know, you go into Tesla, you can’t figure out why the why the battery died.
4:53
And they thought, well, that’s just the end of the life of the battery.
Well, what about?
This OK?
You wear meta glasses.
All of a sudden one day you walk into work and everybody’s staring at you.
They’re snickering and they’re.
Laughing because you.
And your.
Partner, we’re having a little bit of amateur bedroom fun time and you forgot to take the glasses off.
5:12
Well, now all of a sudden you have a.
You have an.
Amateur POV porn video on Pornhub.
Great.
You got to think about these things and that’s why I say like developers are really good at developing the products.
5:29
They’re good at developing the technology.
But they kind of suck at people.
Like they don’t really think about all the things that people are going to do and.
And how people.
Are going to use it and the fact that people forget.
That they’re wearing.
These things because glasses, if you’re, if you wear glasses or a hat even, like anything, sometimes you don’t.
5:47
You don’t think?
About having it on.
You forget it becomes natural, becomes.
Regular.
That you forget that these things are on and recording every.
Movement, you know.
Dude and consumers don’t think about the the end result long run situation like consumers.
6:05
Get pissed off because like, well this is doing this and I didn’t know it.
Would do that if you.
Buy a camera.
That is.
Connected to the Internet, whether it’s on a laptop.
Whether it’s whatever, OK, Bluetooth, whatever it is.
You can pretty much.
Guarantee that.
6:21
In some way, somehow, somebody can get in that and start recording.
Whatever that camera sees.
So if you buy met a glass of wood, is there just supposed to be like a magical switch within it that goes Oh my God nudity off?
I mean, maybe.
That’s actually a good idea.
But consumers don’t think about that because they want the flashiest thing they want to show off to their friends.
6:38
They want to be.
The cool.
Dude in the group, you know, it’s kind of fucked up, dude.
It’s fucked up that we think about that.
We don’t think about those things, even though we should.
Because.
Even though it’s technology and it’s relatively new.
The the the.
Standard like questions and practices and purchasing things.
6:56
Purchasing products.
Of any kind should still apply, and as a consumer you should still be aware and thinking about it.
You shouldn’t just run out.
And go, oh, everything’s just going to work peachy there’s.
Always like Tesla batteries.
Are dying, people didn’t know when.
They bought the Tesla that they had to get a new.
A new engine, essentially, right?
7:13
And they come in and now they’re all pissed off.
Well, like the.
The the.
Developers and.
The and the companies that make these.
Things should probably.
Put in very large print like we have.
Warning labels on.
You know, like what?
Like ingredients and and whether.
7:30
Things are toxic for you, Maybe we need to start doing that at the top of every.
Product like sheet when you’re when you’re buying it, it should be in bold like hey.
These are the things that you can do with it, but also remember.
Turn it off.
7:47
You know, I just think it’s funny, man.
I think it’s funny because consumers, people don’t think about that and then.
They get all riled up when it happens and they can’t, they can’t figure out or they don’t understand that, you know, they have kind of, they have responsibility.
8:04
To know these things I also.
Think that the companies that produce them also have a responsibility to explain to the to the buyer that hey like this could happen.
Right.
And I know that not everybody.
Is going to read the fine print or read a a contract or anything like that but.
8:19
At the same time there should.
Be some level of hey.
Just pay attention to this although.
You know, if you’re recording something.
With your face, you’d think that that would be.
A thought that you have in your head that like I shouldn’t keep this on all the time and if my wife is in the bathroom butt ass naked, maybe I take the glasses off and point them out of wall.
8:42
So this week’s weed facts.
That’s right, this week we have some weed facts.
Are about technology.
That helps with hang on here.
Let me just see because I forgot what it was.
Weed facts.
That help with.
8:58
That.
It’s the newest tech available to help determine cannabis impairment.
That’s right, cannabis consumer attention cannabis consumer.
So this week’s Weed Facts.
Are from.
A site called.
Tobywithtwoeyes.com and it’s called the articles called.
9:17
Guarding sober roads and workplaces, basically.
What this?
Is is new technology in VR?
Headset that allows.
Police to do better roadside inebriation tests or under the influence.
9:37
Tests basically this.
Company Toby makes.
A software that.
Detects eye movement and and eye function to determine whether or not you’re under the influence.
9:54
At the moment of cannabis.
And other substances.
So this is what the article said, the effects of THC.
Are not easily quantifiable through to, through to.
Traditional chemical tests since the amount of THC in the body is not correlated with impairment.
10:13
So basically what that means is you could take you could smoke weed on a Friday and still test positive.
On a Sunday.
But it doesn’t necessarily.
Mean that you’re under the influence at the time.
So THC and its.
Metabolites can remain.
In the body for an extended period, making it impossible to determine if impairment is current, currently being experienced, or if someone has just simply used cannabis previously.
10:37
Officers have tested for impairment using a battery of physical and eye movement tests, while the tests they use have been shown to accurately detect impairment.
Human error and.
Subject and subjectivity are common arguments.
Against their use.
The accuracy.
10:53
Of the assessment by drug recognition.
Officers is typically around 60 to 80. 5% so you get a lot of, you know, human factor, human error in that.
Because like, I mean, realistically you could also.
Have people that have a bias and then they just decide because you’re a sketchy individual or you have, you know, ADHD or some shit and you’re not paying attention, that you’re under the influence when you’re not actually under the influence.
11:16
So Gaze is a software company dedicated to accurately assessing impairment for the purpose of SAFE.
Driving and working and working enforcement.
So not only are they going to use this for like police.
Officers and stuff, but it’s also a way.
For people that work in industrial, in the industrial industry to, to make sure that the people that drive their heavy equipment and all that fun stuff are not under the influence at work, right or while they’re operating these machines.
11:45
So at the heart of its innovation.
Is their impairment testing platform a?
Rapid and portable.
Automated.
Detection Detection system specifically designed to recognize the effects of cannabis, alcohol, opiates, and.
Other drug impairment.
The gaze solution.
12:00
Runs the same.
Eye test that police officers.
Do in an automated fashion using AVR headset.
With the help of.
Toby Eye tracking and Toby Ocumen.
These tests include a high precision ocular motion and pupillary reflex analysis measuring subtle changes in eye.
12:18
Movement that indicate.
Impairment.
See, so you’re going to it’s.
Like you’re playing, you know, like.
If you’re impaired and you get pulled over and you got to put one of these.
VR things on.
And it’s scanning your eyes.
Dude, I don’t know, it’s going to take some time for the public to like, I feel like even if you’re not high, your eyes may.
12:35
React that way, but maybe not.
If you want, you can read the article, it’s on top. 4. 20.com in the weed fact section.
So this software, the gaze.
Solution stuff it.
Boasts a 98% accuracy.
12:51
In detecting that ended in.
Detecting the same signs of impairment that law enforcement.
Officers look for.
So basically it’s obviously.
It takes it takes the error away from it.
Now obviously we all know that programs can have problems.
But people can also have.
13:06
Problems programs tend to have less problems.
I think your bigger problem is deleting that thing by accident or having to redo it, but it makes it.
I guess it makes.
It’s supposed to make the.
Officer’s job easier and then?
Help with, you know, the actual like court proceedings and stuff like that because it will become admissible as as evidence to prove versus, you know, the officer himself, the individual trying to prove it.
13:34
So, yeah, so that’s the way the technology’s going.
And that is one of the ways that at least law enforcement is trying to crack down on impairment.
Attaching terrorist consumer.
13:52
If you’re going to get meta glasses, I would say that you should probably read the user.
Manual it may.
Be the one thing on the planet that you should absolutely read the user manual.
Because here’s the thing.
OK, not only is it.
14:10
Recording whatever you’re.
Doing it’s it’s saving, downloading.
And and keeping a.
Record on meta services.
Of what it sees.
So if you and your wife were trying to have or you and your partner, we’re trying to have some happy time, fun time and you.
14:30
Thought you.
Were in the privacy of your own home.
But you had on your meta glasses.
Guess what?
Meta.
Sees how you do it.
There are.
Literally people out there looking for.
Going through all of the data that comes from these glasses.
14:48
Now this has.
Also caused Meta to catch a lawsuit from at least two people in the US and a bunch of countries are now investigating it because.
How as a company?
That, you know, is supposed to follow privacy laws.
15:06
How are you?
Going to now defy.
All of those privacy laws.
And have have people’s most.
Personal Personal moments saved on a.
Server like.
I don’t want to, you know, make any assumptions about Mark Zuckerberg and Meta AI, but like sounds to me like there may be a little bit of a perv situation going on because why would you want to keep that data?
15:32
Shouldn’t it have?
Shouldn’t it have a like set parameter for the type of data that it stores?
Not just everything like, oh, my Dick fell out.
Look at that like if you’re.
At a ball game and you’re wearing meta glasses, right?
And you go to the urinal and you go to take a leak.
You now have 50 Dicks.
15:48
A video of 50 Dicks on your on your meta.
Glasses and Zuckerberg is just like yeah filed out under D for big Dick or BD for big Dicks.
Like.
You got to be kidding me.
So this week’s dude for.
Real segment is.
All.
16:05
About the revolt, I guess from from employees of Meta and a couple.
Of the.
Consumers against Meta.
Glasses dude.
For real.
For real, dude.
So this week’s dude.
16:20
For Real segment comes from boardpanda.com and.
The article’s called Meta Workers reveal some of the disturbing things they’ve.
Seen through user smart.
Glasses.
That’s right, like I told you.
They’re recording you always, as if.
16:36
CCTV wasn’t.
Enough and being able to look through.
Laptops wasn’t enough or whatever, you know.
Like now they’re actually giving you a product that essentially spies on you because you forget about it.
And you don’t turn it off.
And you you don’t do what you should do as a.
16:51
As a as a, you know, educated consumer, that’s right.
SO2US citizens have filed a lawsuit.
In San Francisco against Meta.
Over consumer privacy violations.
The lawsuit accuses.
Mark Zuckerberg’s company of false.
17:06
Advertising and disregarding privacy laws?
No shit.
It still gets me bad.
Like you’re sitting there watching like I get, OK, So even if let’s say.
You didn’t do this accidentally.
Let’s say that, you know, some people like to film their own home videos.
17:23
You know what I’m saying?
Let’s say you did this on purpose.
That video is still on.
Like you.
There’s no more days of like, Oh my God, I sold the sex tape at a garage sale.
There’s Oh my God, Mark Zuckerberg has my sex tape immediately.
Like you may as well just be a straight line to that shit, you know?
17:41
So Kenyan subcontractor that that basically reviews.
All of the.
Data the employees of that company.
Blew.
The whistle on Meta’s alleged privacy breach.
So in some videos, this is what, this is what 1 employee said.
17:56
They’re all anonymous because obviously they’re worried about their jobs.
But in some videos you can see someone going to the toilet.
Or getting undressed.
I don’t think they know because if they knew they wouldn’t be recording, another said.
I saw a video where a man puts the glasses on the bedside table and then leaves the room shortly afterwards his wife.
18:15
Comes in and changes her clothes now.
Like dude.
Come on, there’s got to be like a safety switch, you know, like.
I don’t know.
There’s got to be a way for it.
Like if if there’s got to be like a motion like you can shake your phone.
And send a problem.
Report to Instagram, right?
18:31
Can you not?
Remove your glasses.
And send an off report.
Like what?
Are we talking about here?
One data monitor warned.
We see.
Everything bro.
From living rooms to naked bodies.
Meta has that type of.
18:46
Content in its.
Databases people can record themselves in the wrong way.
And not even know what they’re recording.
It’ll imagine you’re texting OK and.
You text something.
That, you know, might be worrisome to like public safety or.
19:03
Committing a crime?
It sees that too.
Like dude, this is exactly minority Minority report, man.
I would be worried.
I’m not buying that shit.
It’s right up there with.
Like Neuralink?
Oh my God, you want to have a thing in your head that’s going to record everything you do and see?
19:19
You got to be fucking kidding me.
Why?
Why?
Why?
Are we doing this?
I get love and tech but it just seems like this.
Is all kinds of problems.
And terrifying at the same time.
Another.
Another.
Person said you.
Understand that it’s someone’s private.
19:34
Life that you’re looking at.
But at the same time.
You’re just expected to carry out the work.
You’re not support.
You’re not supposed to.
Question it because.
You might lose your job, that’s what That’s what these.
Like the?
Bosses and the supervisor there.
You can’t even be like, hey, this is wrong.
19:51
And the Super I like fuck you, then I’ll find someone else that’ll do.
It it’s almost.
Like, you know, in the military, like you.
Maybe you don’t.
Want to drop the bomb?
Maybe you don’t.
Want to be.
The remote pilot of a drone that’s going to kill 100,000 people or whatever it is, but there’s another dude that’s just going to take that seat because they need the money.
20:07
It’s the same as this.
And even though there’s like this, you know, pretty solid.
Data breach privacy issue or not data breach privacy issue right you you’d think that they would you know, kind of flip the script on it a bit and be like let’s.
20:22
Be very careful.
Nope, not matter.
Matter is like, you get that shit in there and you record it.
I don’t care what you see, just watch it like.
Jesus Christ, so.
Matter is being investigated by the governments of multiple.
Countries.
And now they’re being dubbed the Pervert Glasses.
Yeah, that’s right, dude.
20:39
For real.
For real, dude.
So the moral of the story for this week?
Is pretty simple.
Actually be.
Educated on the.
Technology that you buy.
Understand what it does, what its capabilities are, and know what you’re getting into before the before your your freshly shorn nut sack or your adult activities end up on a Meta server that Mark Zuckerberg and his cronies and.
21:10
His buddies.
Can look for can like pull up at the drop of a hat, you know, just.
Oh, I want to see.
Hairy nuts.
You know, and then there it is.
And he could show all his buddies.
So just think about that.
Think about when you’re buying a Tesla or any electric car, you’re going to have to replace the battery at some point.
21:30
So you may as well understand what the maintenance costs are.
Just think about it the with.
The rise of technology and the evolution of of AI and and.
All the the cool gadgets that were that are supposed to help us evolve as a as a human.
Race, you know.
21:46
We should still be.
Concerned and.
Worried and think about and, and, and know what we’re getting into because we need to, we need to, we need to keep our privacy private.
I know that in this day and age, that’s very hard to do, But I don’t think that, you know, I don’t think that it’s a, it’s a good idea to start implanting or putting on things that record your every move and every action because like, I don’t know, that just seems, that just seems common sense to me.
22:17
That’s what I think and those are my thoughts off the stem for this week.
I hope you enjoyed the sesh.
I hope you come back next week with me, Justin Peroni on thoughts off the stem.
Oh I’ve also I also started a new merch store so check out.
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22:41
Hit the shop button and you can get some official TOTS merch.
That’s right.
And yeah, until next time as I use my.
Electronic device to.
Get my weed going.
Keep your lids low, baby.

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They Love to Say they Know a Stoner

Justin Barone, host of Thoughts Off The Stem podcast, in a yellow hoodie featuring a graphic overlay that reads: Everyone Loves To Say They Know A Stoner - A Deep Dive in cannabis stigma normalization on Thoughts Off The Stem.

I spent the last year in job interviews trying to break into project management after leaving the cannabis industry.

And every single time — without fail — someone in a suit would pull me aside, lean in, and whisper that they know someone who smokes weed. Like it’s a secret. Like I’m supposed to react like they just told me they know Jesus.

Here’s what they don’t realize. I’ve walked into more interviews than I can count and recognized faces — not because I’m a great networker, but because I sold them weed.

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy
Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy
They Love to Say they Know a Stoner
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This week on Thoughts Off The Stem it’s just a sesh. No segments. Just real talk about cannabis normalization, the stigma that won’t die, and why both sides of the debate need to take a breath.

The naysayers need to ease up. And honestly? We as the cannabis community need to stop pretending everything about weed is completely safe too. Progress is happening. Let’s act like it.

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They Love to Say they Know a Stoner
Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy


0:00
One of my favorite jobs was when I worked at the pawn shop.
I mean, that was the best.
How often do you get to work at a place where you could describe things that are like offside, you know, like, not that I recommend doing this, but you can literally say to somebody, how fucked up do you want to get today?
0:19
And then try to sell them something.
It’s amazing.
It’s it’s pretty, it’s pretty fun, dude.
You can wear whatever you want.
You can have, like, questionable, you know, paraphernalia and emblazoned T-shirts.
0:37
You could do things however you kind of want to do them.
There’s like no real strict policies.
Like you, yeah, you have to talk.
You know, you have to be nice.
You have to, you know, it’d be inclusive and things like that.
But if you’re trying to make a sale or you’re trying to sell something, you can very easily.
Like, I don’t know how many times I had, you know, a university kid that I had helped find some really good flower, right?
1:00
And then he’d bring his buddies in and he’d be like, you need to talk to that guy, ’cause it’s Saturday or it’s Friday night and we want to get zooted or whatever the term is, right?
So they bring them over to me and the guy, I’d say, well, like, what do you want to do?
And they’re like, oh, we’re partying, dude.
We’re partying tonight, bro.
1:16
That’s what we’re doing.
And so I’d sit down and I’d set them up with, you know, the, the 8:00 PM, the 9:00 PM, ten PM, 111212 PM and or 2:00 AM all the way into the morning.
And you could just keep going and everything that I gave you, all of my selections would help move along the evening, you know, without getting you too, too overly pitched.
1:39
No, no face down in the toilet, no zonked out at the corner of a club.
No, none of that.
That was like one of my favorite job, favorite parts of the job.
The other part was being able, because I’m 44, being able to help people find what it is that they’re looking for and really understand what try what, what will help them alleviate the problem that they’re having.
2:00
But aside from that, because now I’ve stepped away from that, I’m trying to get into like project management.
I took AI, took a course on it and it, it fell in line with how I was the, my job, my job from the shop, I was an assistant manager.
2:16
So it kind of fell in line with that.
I was very, I was responsible for, you know, coaching and helping people move forward.
That was my thing.
But now moving into project management, I’ve stepped away from the cannabis industry, tried to go a little bit more mainstream.
Even though I love, even though I love cannabis, even though I love weed and I like doing my thing.
2:34
And it’s April, and it’s almost that time of year where it’s, you know, the cannabis, the canister is Christmas.
Yeah, that’s right.
Welcome to THOUGHTS off the STEM.
Thanks for joining me.
I’m Justin Peroni.
Hope life’s being good to you.
And today we’re just shooting the shit.
We’re going to have a sash, a proper sash.
Puff it out some 1964.
2:56
It’s an indica.
It’s nice and relaxing.
It’s nice and calm.
But yeah, so I’ve started to, you know, look into other industries to sort of like, I don’t know, I just, I found that the cannabis industry was just a little bit too chaotic, you know, and I always like to affect the things that I do.
3:15
I want to be able to progress.
I want to be able to move forward and I want to, I want to learn.
And when you work in a shop, you don’t necessarily have the opportunity to learn the way that I like to learn.
Like I like to get hands on with things.
I like to get into things.
I like to, I like to be able to control some of it if I can, or at least provide prove that I could do a good job so that I get some of that control right and opportunity.
3:40
And within the cannabis industry, if you’re a retail manager, assistant manager, you work at a shop, there’s not a lot of room for movement.
If you own a shop, if you own one of these bigger brands, if you’re at the at the top of the hierarchy there, then you do pretty well.
But as I’ve moved into the mainstream again, I started to notice because this happened, I, I left about a year ago and I’ve been trying to move into the mainstream.
4:06
And, and even like 6 to 8 months ago, I started to notice that in my job applications to newer companies, I think that my, my, my, my time in the cannabis industry had a negative impression or has a negative or yeah, had a negative impression to new businesses like mainstream business.
4:28
And I feel like a lot of people would still still have had like a stigma to it.
Now I’ve noticed in the last probably month or two, maybe 3 months, because I have management qualifications, I’ve done a certification in, in, in project management.
4:44
There’s a little bit more legitimacy to me and maybe I’ve distanced myself enough from it.
But I still love weed and I still love, I still love the industry and I still like having my toes in it, you know, dipping my toes in.
But I’ve noticed, because I’ve gone on a lot of interviews, I’ve really noticed that everybody, everybody dude likes to, to know or wants to know a Stoner or a pothead or somebody that partakes, you know, because even the soothiest of suits, as has in these interviews, if I tell them I’m in Canada or I worked in cannabis, because it’s right on my resume.
5:24
You know, they kind of have this look on their face at first like, Oh, I don’t know.
But then as you explain what you did and as you get into the technical sides of it and and they realize that you’re not just, you know, huffing mass amounts of weed to try and keep your day moving, they kind of go, oh, OK, look, you’re smarter than I thought you were.
5:40
Like, yeah, you know what?
Potheads aren’t dumb.
Potheads are kind of smart.
We do.
We’re it it, it fills this void of curiosity, you know, or it, or it helps to it helps to promote curiosity, I guess you could say, because when you smoke a little bit of weed and you get a little bit reflective, the next thing you know, you’re questioning everything.
6:00
And if you see something that you’re interested in, guess what you’re doing, you’re deep diving that shit.
So as I’ve, as I’ve interviewed with some of these people and they’re very suit oriented people, you know, like very proper, very, you wouldn’t think that they would partake.
And as you have these discussions and, and then as the interview kind of winds down and you start having more of a, a personal discussion rather than a business discussion, and you, you start to note it.
6:25
Like they’ll lean in, they’ll do the whole lean in, right?
They’ll, they’ll lean and go, you know, my cousin or my sister or my brother-in-law or, you know, my grandfather or my father or whatever.
You know, they, they, they smoke a little bit of cannabis and they have this look on their face like they’re telling you that they just met a rock star.
6:44
You know what I’m saying?
And yeah, I found when I think back on those, because I’ve had a few of those moments lately where they kind of like take you to the side and they sidle over.
Like you could be in a boardroom full of people and then almost every single person at that table that’s interviewing you or, or in that board setting will find you after and they’ll corner you.
7:03
And then in hushed tones, they’ll just be like, hey, bro, my, my, my wife smokes a little bit of weight.
You know what I’m saying?
Like they’re trying to get buddy buddy with you, even if they don’t give you the job, even even if they, you know, still have their own connotation or the business has its own connotation towards people that indulge in weed.
7:25
They all got to find this like common ground where it’s like, Hey, I know someone man, I know I do.
I don’t do it.
I don’t, I personally, personally, I don’t do it.
I don’t do it.
I don’t, I don’t do it.
But you know, I know a couple people that do.
That happens every time.
And it used to happen more suddenly, I guess, like, you know, 810 years ago when it had first become legal, because a lot of people obviously didn’t want to be associated with it because it still had this stigma to it that it was negative.
7:54
And I and I thought we got past that.
Like I thought we got past the whole, you know, mush mouth, glazy eyed, lazy Stoner.
Like I thought, I think that at this point where there’s enough people in high power positions or, or or, you know, wealthy intelligent effectors of society that have come out and said, yes, milkweed all the time, dude.
8:18
And that’s how I came up with my processing system, you know, or that’s how I came up with this idea for clean drinking water.
You know what I’m saying?
Like, I thought we got past this whole stigma thing, but there you could tell still tell you could still tell that there’s a slight stigma to it and there’s a slight stigma to it where people will be like eyebrow, I know you didn’t get this job, but like just want you to know my wife smokes a hell a ton of weed.
8:44
Like what are we talking about, dude?
You know, just just admit it.
Especially in Canada, it’s it’s legal.
You could get it at every fucking corner store.
We basically have like coffee shops full of weed.
Like, you know, it’s, it’s comparable to Tim horton’s at this point.
Tim horton’s is on every goddamn corner.
9:00
And guess what?
There’s a pawn shop right next to every single one of them.
I remember one time they tried to open a pawn shop in a gas station.
Do you understand how how heavy the regulations are on pawn shops?
You opening in a gas station’s crazy because you can’t have anybody.
You can’t have anybody.
9:16
No one, no one under the age of 19 is allowed to see in or be in there.
How the hell are you going to open up a pawn shop at the side of a gas station?
Like I don’t know if you go to these on the run places, but on the run you get you can have you get your gas right?
And then they’re like a mini convenience store and then they have some kind of like whether it’s Wendy’s or or Tim horton’s or like Subway or something like that right there.
9:38
So you can buy food too.
Like the days of the Quickie Mart and having like those rotisserie hot dogs are over though.
Now what they have is they have full blown franchises sitting next to the counter, right?
So like, I don’t know why we’re not past this stigma, and I don’t know why everybody wants to like, hush it up and be like, dude, I know you smoke weed and I know you didn’t get the job, but guess what?
10:03
My daughter smokes weed.
She loves that, like everybody, their weed is for everyone, OK?
It’s not a bad thing.
It’s actually very beneficial.
It’s not always beneficial.
I also don’t like the opposite of that.
I don’t like the opposite where everybody goes all going home be like, well, weed’s great for you.
10:21
It’s natural breath.
You should just take it like rub it all over your body and heal yourself.
No, it’s still you’re still putting foreign substances in your lungs.
You know, if you’re eating, if you’re eating it, it’s probably the best way to deal with it because we’re the best way to handle it or ingest it because it it’s it’s less likely at this point with what we understand and what we know, it’s less likely to have negative health impacts.
10:47
Whereas if you’re smoking something like even I’m smoking a vape right now, as clean a process as you can make that vape, right?
Like the the oils in the vape, it’s still a foreign substance in your body that your body is not really supposed to be inhaling.
11:05
So you could still end up with health issues.
So I also don’t like the flip side of I also don’t like the flip side of the discussion where everybody’s too like, it’s good for you, it’s good for you sometimes, OK.
But like it’s this, it’s moderation.
11:20
Anything in moderation you have to have in moderation, right?
So anything doesn’t matter what it is.
And it’s not always healthy for you.
Like people, everything reacts to people in different ways, right?
Like everybody has a different reaction.
So like, you don’t know if somebody ingested something bad is going to happen.
11:40
It’s not going to most likely it’s not going to kill them or hurt them like too bad, but it could still have negative health effects, you know, but that’s not my point.
My point is this it is it never fails to make me laugh when you’re talking to somebody that’s very like square straight edge or, you know, the person that you wouldn’t think that would smoke weed, start talking to you about weed.
12:03
Because they all presented in a way where they know somebody and they’re they sort of like give off the like this sly kind of underside impression.
Like, yeah, you know, I met Mark Tyson, bro.
I met a weed smoker.
A weed smoker is my best friend.
12:19
Like that’s how that’s how they do it.
They try to, you know, they get their, their, their posture changes.
They get this, like, crooked, sly smile of like, I know something, you know, you know, that they think separates them from everyone else.
Here’s the thing.
Since I worked in a pot shop and I saw hundreds of people a day, let me explain something to people.
12:40
If you run a business, it doesn’t matter what business that is, OK?
Whether you’re a cop, a firefighter, A politician, you know, Wall Street dude, high finance, hoity, toity, preppy, whatever, any way you want to classify whatever the business is that they like, the high end, low end, whatever, they’re all in there.
13:01
Dude.
I remember when I had a biz like an HR person tell me like, yeah, I know.
We really frown on people smoking weed.
I went into that business.
I knew everybody.
I didn’t know them because I’m super friendly.
I knew them because I sold them weed and there used to be a time, even when it was first open, like I, I was always the one that went to my kids school to watch like all their sports and like presentations and whatever.
13:26
Like I was that dad, right?
So when I would go, everybody would turn, they would turn away.
They would turn a blind eye.
They’d be like, I don’t know you.
They would like I’d wave.
Nope.
I’d get my hand halfway up to be like, Hey, how’s it going?
And they would turn and walk the other way because they didn’t want other people knowing.
13:42
I think at this point we could safely say that everybody knows everybody smokes weed.
It it would be like saying I don’t drink.
There’s like one in 1000 people that don’t drink.
That’s not true.
Obviously that’s not a real fact, a real statistic.
But my point is this, there’s more people and it’s legal.
13:59
You don’t have to worry about it.
It’s OK to smoke weed.
It’s you’re, it’s allowed.
You’re allowed to have it.
A lot of people do a lot harder things that are not supposed to be doing those things or things that they’re not supposed to do.
But at for whatever reason, when it comes to weed, people like to they like to hide it.
14:15
They like to keep it secret.
They don’t want everybody knowing.
And I don’t really understand that because when I smoke, like I’ll take the dog for a walk and I’ll just huff away on my pen as I walk down the road.
The only problem is sometimes as you’re huffing your pen when you walk down the road, right, you end up maybe in a convenience store to get a bottle of water and then the lights are bright.
14:39
And then you’re in a new in a new environment.
And as soon as you change that environment, guess what happens?
Well, your whole body goes, I’m high.
This is new.
I don’t know anything what’s happening?
I don’t know, you know, And then you have to adjust because as soon as you walk into that new place, your whole body goes, they all know I’m high.
14:58
I better not look high.
But then you act all rigid and then you talk ways that you don’t talk.
Then you forget things.
You stare at people, takes you too long to answer things like what are we talking about here?
I remember what time my buddy and I got baked.
We were on a walk and then we walked into a 711 and we were buying, We needed some more ice for a beer at a cooler at the house.
15:18
And we go and we buy the ice and I give the ice to my buddy thinking he’s going to put it because we’re buying a few things, thinking he’s going to put the ice on the shelf.
Like the counter where you pay for the stuff.
This motherfucker stands there like an industrial robot holding 2 bags of ice with his, like his arms are like a tray and the 2 bags of ice are on his arms.
15:40
We must have been there for probably like, I don’t know, maybe 10 minutes of him just standing there while we waited in line.
I’m like, dude, you want me to take this?
Nope, I don’t want to.
He was so high he didn’t know what to do with them, right?
So everybody’s staring at him.
I’m kind of chuckling to myself because I’m like, this motherfucker is going to be like, he’s going to become Mr. Freeze real soon.
15:58
And then we get to the counter and he still holds them.
We go outside, he takes the bags and he starts holding them by like the tags so that you can, you know, hang, hold them.
And they’re not on your arms.
He’s like, dude, my arms are frozen.
I’m like, yeah, why didn’t you put the bags down?
Like, why did you hang hold it?
That’s the type of shit you do with weed.
16:15
You know, you’re not going out, you’re not harming people, you’re not trying to fight people, you’re not trying to do anything crazy.
You’re just having a good time, you know, vibing out in your head and all the internal thoughts start rolling around.
But everybody wants to know a pothead dude.
16:31
Whether they admit it or not.
There’s like this kind of social status, I think that comes with it where if you tell somebody, hey, like I know somebody that smokes weed, all of a sudden you, it seems like they expect you to look at them like, Oh my God, you know, Jesus.
16:50
No, no, that’s not, that’s not really how it goes.
Everybody, everybody smokes weed.
Trust me, I’ve seen wherever you work.
I’ve seen everyone.
I know them all.
I know them all, maybe not by name, but I know their faces and I know their faces even in the most expensive suits.
Because every day after work, guess what?
17:06
Everybody’s got to brush the bullshit off.
And when you brush the bullshit off, guess what were you doing?
That’s right.
You’re either drinking your face off or you’re puffing a little joint, maybe go for a run, but you’re still puffing a joint.
Even fit people, dude, you go to the gym, ask next time you go to the gym.
If you have buddies that like you only see at the gym, ask them if they smoke before their workout.
17:24
I bet you’d be surprised at how many people actually smoke before a workout.
But that’s, that’s what I love.
That’s what I love about weed.
Dude, when I first started smoking weed, I was, I did, I was 18.
A lot of people start way before that, but I started at 18 because I saw everybody that was at parties that smoked weed.
17:46
We’re always laughing and having a good time.
And I was like, I want to laugh and have a good time.
I love laughing.
Like I love stand up comedy.
Eddie Murphy was my jam growing up.
Like, dude, I must have watched Delirious 100,000 times.
Like I could, I used to do an impression of him, an impression of Eddie Murphy doing an impression of a black guy.
18:04
He’s probably racist now, but it wasn’t then because I was just saying the things that he said on his special because I thought they were fucking hilarious.
But I like laughing.
So I decided to start smoking weed.
And then I went and I smoked weed.
You just have to be careful because weed is so calming and it gets you so reflective that like in your own head, you’re super productive because you’re having thoughts all the time.
18:27
But at the same time outside you’re not doing anything.
You’re just sitting in the couch staring at a wall eating a banana, you know, like or Doritos.
But that’s the that’s the fun of weed.
There’s two aspects to weed that that make it super fun.
18:44
One is the common effect and the other is the giggle factor.
Yeah, that’s right.
You get to, you get, you can, you can sit back, calm, be reflective, look back, look into yourself, make some changes.
But at the same time you can giggle at the stupidest shit.
And who doesn’t love having a little bit of a giggle fest, you know, for no fucking reason on a Thursday?
19:04
Yeah, that’s right.
Weed is fun.
And the stigma is fully removed.
Not fully removed, but it’s definitely moving in the in the more acceptable direction, I guess.
But we still have a little bit of work to do because we got to get past the point of where somebody sidles up beside you after a job interview and goes, dude, my aunt smoked a lot.
19:28
Weird.
As if they’ve got some kind of badge of honor for knowing them.
You know what I’m saying?
Those are my thoughts off the step for this week.
I hope you enjoyed the sesh where I hope you come back next week with me, Justin Baroni on thoughts off the stem.
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19:45
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It’s always great to know that where people are, you know, listening from checkoutthoughts420.com, checkoutthoughts420.com.
I hope you enjoyed the sesh and until next time.
20:09
Keep your lids low baby dude.
I burped and I told at the same time.
That’s crazy.

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Everything is Fake: Your Reality is for Sale

Justin Barone host of Thoughts Off The Stem investigates paid protests astroturfing the Manhattan Madam and Crowds on Demand with money flying in the background, everything is fake episode

Everything is fake: Someone slid into my DMs and asked me to have the CEO of Crowds on Demand on the podcast. So I did what any self respecting pothead would do — I went down the rabbit hole.

Crowds on Demand is a real company. Where you can buy a crowd of paid activists for $39.99 per person. Need a protest outside your competitor’s headquarters? Done. Need a packed political rally? Done. Need a fake grassroots movement with hired actors as leaders? Also done.

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The person who reached out to me? Kristin M. Davis — the Manhattan Madam — who is now a PR consultant rebranding scandal-ridden public figures for a living.

He claims he wants to blow the whistle on the fake protest industry. But he won’t name his clients. He won’t name his sources. And his company still sells the exact same service he’s supposedly exposing.

Here’s my take — when you’re whistleblowing you’re supposed to do it for the better of society, not for the better of your bank account.

I broke it all down this week on Thoughts Off The Stem. And at the end of the episode I’m asking you directly — should I have him on the show? Because I genuinely don’t think I’ll get an honest conversation out of him.

Drop your answer in the comments.

Research links from the sesh:https://crowdsondemand.com/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristin_M._Davishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowds_on_Demandhttps://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/concerned-citizens-turn-out-to-be-political-theater/2021439/https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-03-14/paid-protester-company-looking-to-hire-7-foot-300-pound-giants-for-intimidation-factor

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Everything is Fake: Your Reality is for Sale
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0:01
What do a Manhattan Madam and a UCLA graduate have in common?
Is it a conspiracy to use a little black book to blackmail prominent public figures?
Or, you know, is it a flashy night out in Hollywood where the champagne flows and somebody rides their nose through a gauntlet of desk moguls, only to wake up the next morning shocked that they’re next to an unresponsive lady of the night?
0:27
Not exactly, but it is as ick inducing as what I just mentioned.
Welcome to thoughts off the STEM.
I’m Justin Peroni.
I hope that life’s being good to you because today we’re talking about more craziness.
That’s right, more craziness.
So she is the CEO of APR firm for companies and people that want to rebrand themselves.
0:48
He is the CEO of APR firm that hires actors to join protests for wealthy clients.
The company is Crowds on Demand where you can buy a crowd of like minded activists at the economical price of 3999 per activist.
1:09
What are we talking about here man?
Even the happiest place on Earth loses a little bit of its luster when you have to insert yourself in the crowds.
Crowds on demand.
Really, there’s a few things that we should have on demand.
What we should have on demand is things like movies, TV, food, maybe emergency services, healthcare.
1:33
You see what I’m saying here?
And maybe just maybe, you know, on demand, a stiff drink or a joint at the end of the day to get you through or calm down all the craziness that you have to go through throughout the week, right?
And there’s a couple things that we don’t need on demand.
1:51
We don’t need crowds.
We don’t need lines and we don’t need, you know, fake warriors for social causes.
That’s right.
The person that I’m talking about that reached out to me is Kristin Davis.
She’s the CEO of think right PR Kristin Davis.
2:07
Let me just tell you a little bit about her.
OK?
Kristin Davis.
Kristin Davis, previously known as the Manhattan Madam, is a former Madam who is known for running a high end prostitution ring in New York City which claimed to have offered its services to several Hope high profile clients in including Eliot Spitzer, Alex Rodriguez, and David Beckham.
2:28
After her conviction for prostitution related activities, Davis ran a protest campaign for the Governor of New York in 2010 and was poised to run for the New York City Comptroller in 2013 before being arrested and later convicted for distributing drugs.
2:45
Now obviously all the facts aren’t black and white, but here’s the thing.
You’re reaching out to me to talk to your client or partner or whatever, right?
But like, your dealings are nefarious and by his own admission his business is is not what it seems like.
3:04
It is.
Exactly the problem in my opinion with how society is right.
Like everything is fake, dude.
Everything that we see, we hear is manufactured.
And this guy is basically like, yeah, that’s what I do.
3:19
I manufacture everything.
I manufacture.
Protests or protest the thing that we should be manufacturing.
I don’t think so.
I think the protest should be organic, should be filled with people that actually have a, you know, a stake in, in, in what’s going on, what they’re protesting.
3:41
I don’t think we should sign people up based on some billionaire saying, hey, pay some people, write some scripts, send them out there so I look better or so that company looks bad because that’s what he focuses on.
Now, in July 2018, Davis was contacted by the special counsel, Robert Mueller in connection with his investigation of Russian interference.
3:59
So not only was this lady, like, the head of hookers, OK, she was also nailed for distributing drugs.
Now, I don’t totally know what that means.
She says that she was just, you know, helping her friend find some drugs.
But do you really need to go to the street for that?
I’m just saying it’s a little bit nefarious, man.
4:17
OK.
And then in 2016, she, oh, so that was, sorry, I misspoke there.
That was just the end of the sentence after she she was investigated for the Russian interference in 2016 during the US president presidential election campaign.
Now, Davis did end up serving four months in Rikers Island for her involvement in the Spitzer scandal.
4:39
I don’t if you don’t know who Eliot Spitzer is, he had a really big prostitution scandal back in 2010.
It really kind of screwed things up for him.
Now, I do have to mention this because like as much as I’m kind of shitting on her and and you know, get like, I don’t know how you expect me to trust somebody like that.
4:54
I don’t know how you expect me to engage with somebody.
And again, and I’m all for second chances, but it just seems odd that your background is deception.
Your background is criminal and you want me to give a platform to somebody that is trying to influence social commentary or influence the optics of politicians, businesses, industries, product launches, whatever there?
5:31
It’s a very deceitful situation.
So you would think that as somebody like the guy that ran this company, you’d think you’d reach out to somebody that’s not in that kind of position where they kind of have to, you know, work around the fact that, yeah, I did some illegal shit first.
5:49
Like that’s going to come back to haunt you.
That follows you.
But I guess at the same time, it also makes sense because if you’re if you’re capable of running a high end business like that and do it illegally for a long time.
I mean, you’re you’re good.
6:06
You’re good at spinning things, aren’t you?
More than one, if you know what I’m trying, OK.
But yeah, no, I don’t know how they expected me to take them seriously.
I do have to mention, though, that she has done some good.
She actually, Kristin Davis actually is the founder of Hope House.
6:24
Hope House, OK, which helps women in need or women that have suffered, you know, domestic violence, anything, anything really, if they’ve been a part of human trafficking, which again, is another thing, like she didn’t get convicted of human trafficking.
6:39
But if you’re the head of the hookers, are you not essentially human trafficking?
Like, what are we talking about here?
Everything here is just all kinds of red flags, you know what I’m saying?
So she reached out to me to have this guy, Adam Swart, who is the head of crowds on demand.
6:59
Again, a thing that we don’t really need on demand.
Do we need a crowd on demand?
I get it, you want to watch a movie right now, but you want a large crowd right now.
That already seems shady.
Like anyway, she she wanted me to talk about the mechanics or with him, wanted me to talk with him about the mechanics of how crowds are mobilized, funded and and coordinated.
7:24
Is that really a thing that we should be talking about?
Shouldn’t we talk about the grass roots movement or the, the, the actual subject of the protest?
Shouldn’t that be the defining moment or the defining thing that is the reason for it and how to get those people together?
7:44
Because realistically, it’s a short conversation.
You’re going to tell me, hey, I pay people and I write scripts for people to go to protest and, and I make my client look good and I make the other guy look bad.
That’s really what you do, right?
And then you want to talk about why targeting specific, specific decision makers and, and, and concrete demands is often more effective than national protest spectacles.
8:11
You’re creating spectacles, you’re paying people to become a spectacle.
If you look up the stuff that’s the like the job applications, the, the, the jobs, the current available jobs on their website, the, it reads like a casting call.
8:27
It’s not like, Hey, are you good at, you know, petitioning or are you good at, at organizing?
No, no, it’s hey, are you 7 feet tall, £300?
Because we need an intimidating person to be at this, at this crowd.
If you’re not that we don’t need you, don’t apply.
8:42
Like, what are we talking about here, dude?
What is going on?
The other thing she wanted to sort of have him discuss was after organizing advocacy campaigns across the political spectrum, he focused on separating effective civic engagement from performative outrage.
9:02
This sounds like a lot of hokey, pokey dude.
It sounds like it’s the same thing.
Like, so basically the way that he operated OK was that whoever his client would be would pay him a certain amount of money and he would manufacture a crowd or a business to support what the high paying customer wanted.
9:25
Now, if you’re trying to be transparent in all of this, you would think that you would have a list of of your clients available or you would be OK with discussing what their needs were, what how you met them and what you did.
But no, no, he’s essentially keeping a madam’s little black book of people that have paid to protest and he’s lining his pockets for this.
9:48
This is a, this is, is, is a big part of what I’ve been talking about a lot recently.
It’s all about how the media, how people use the media, and how people use information to trick and deceive the public, sometimes political people into getting what they want out of them, right?
10:12
It sounds really bad like to me, I don’t know.
So I deep dove this and I looked into it.
I read some articles, I watched some news clips because apparently he’s been on all the news, right?
And he only gives you PR answers like, well, I can’t give you my, you know, when he gets asked about his customers, I can’t give you my customers.
10:30
But you are saying that you’re trying to turn a new leaf.
You’re not trying to do it the way that you did it because this company has been around since 2012, I believe.
And they started off petitioning people to say, Hey, I can make you look good.
I can make, I can get you attention.
I could do this.
You just pay me and I’ll send some people there to make sure that you look like you’re, you know, your popularity is through the roof and we’ll get you some attention.
10:54
Like it’s paid for.
It’s like, it’s like social media and buying subscribers and views and all that fun stuff.
Like it’s, it’s just, it’s just live action.
It’s a live action version of that.
This guy’s basically set up his own Hollywood studio for protesting it.
11:09
It it sits in, I think a very like it’s very close to that, you know, ethical and moral.
It’s not they say they work in the Gray area.
I say they’re just about falling off the Cliff.
That was the Gray area.
11:25
You know what I’m saying?
It’s this is not the way that we should be operating in society.
This is not how we should be doing the things that that we want these, this is not how we should accomplish progress.
I don’t think so.
Adam Swart, who is the CEO of Crowds on Demand.
11:41
This is basically what Crowds on Demand is.
Crowds on Demand was founded by Adam Swart, a former journalist for AOL’s Patch Network.
The company initially gained attention for offering celebrity the celebrity experience.
I’m doing air quotes services such as fake paparazzi and hired fans primarily in Los Angeles.
12:01
And over time, its offerings expanded to include organized protests, political demonstrations and publicity stunts involving paid actors posing as members of the public.
Now that’s a problem if you’re, I like if you have a product launch or something like that, I feel like this is a beneficial service because you want to get, you know, attention.
12:21
And I don’t think that there’s anything wrong with marketing a product and using actors to promote that product in real time or as live action, you know what I’m saying?
But I do think that if you’re protesting or you’re trying to get political bills passed or political things changed and you know, you’re trying to organize these things, I don’t think that you should have to pay people to go and do it.
12:51
You know what?
I’m, does that not seem shady to you?
Because that seems like the most shady to me.
That seems like a really big problem.
And I know that everybody that that in history, it’s always been done.
But now that it’s like it’s kind of out there and people are approaching others to sort of say like, Hey, we could do this for you.
13:10
And, and we’re starting to lose sight of what real progress is because nothing is real, dude.
I’ve like, everything’s a lie.
Everything is fake.
I basically assume at this point that anything that I watch or read is bullshit and I deep dive everything because I have to make sure that whatever I’m reading is and what I’m taking in is like, I’ve I got to find that middle ground because the middle ground is where the answers lie.
13:36
The middle ground doesn’t, doesn’t lie on the left or right side of these things.
It’s somewhere in the middle because everybody’s skewing everything for their favor, which is, in my opinion, horrible.
OK, if you’re trying to sell a product, product, if you’re trying to get attention to like social media, it doesn’t matter what you’re doing.
13:54
Everything is a facade now.
It used to be the movies, TV, you know, and, and entertainment was a facade, but we knew that we bought into it.
But now everything is from from politics to, to, to, you know, a new business startup.
It’s insane, man.
14:13
It’s absolutely, I don’t know, it seems to me that it’s very we have to watch out for this as a society, we have to watch out and determine whether or not what is being fed to us is the right thing.
Especially now where everybody is on the phone.
14:30
Nobody goes outside and talks to people anymore.
You watch it all on your phone or you’re out there recording it on your phone and you don’t know.
You just assume, Oh my God, look at all.
That’s another thing a lot of people like.
It’s all built on negativity.
It’s all built on shock and awe and, and, and, and riling up emotion, right?
14:48
So like, what are we talking about here?
I’ve said this a few times, but why are we trying to rile up negative emotion?
Why can’t we just be positive?
Why can’t loving somebody and having a good time, being happy, joking around, smiling, laughing, hanging out with friends?
15:03
Why can’t that be the thing that that that shifts public perception or shifts the mindset?
Why?
Because you need controversy?
Because we’re so ingrained and fed with it that we have to fall that we have no choice but to fall head first into that rabbit hole.
15:19
And then it’s, it’s also specifically designed to, to, to suck you in and pull you down like a succubus.
You know what I’m saying?
It’s I don’t know, it’s bad news.
Now some of the I watched, like I said, I’ve watched a few clips on this and I’ve watched a few clips of this guy talk and he doesn’t really say much of anything.
15:39
And if I were to have him on the podcast, I I have to have a few questions answered.
Not in APR fashion.
I need you to tell me things.
So I watched this one clip with Fox News where he was being asked like who his clients were.
15:55
Now I get you don’t no business wants to give up client information, but if you’re trying to transition from the shady, weird, creepy, you know, pay for play kind of kind of dealing dude, right?
You you want to sort of set the record straight and you’re trying to turn that you’re trying to turn that perception into a whistleblower perception.
16:17
Well, a whistleblower, it isn’t like it doesn’t go out there saying, hey, there’s a bunch of companies out there doing this without receipts, dude, OK, this guy had no receipts.
He’s, he’s basically saying, look, I’m just telling you, I did this for a long time.
My company does this and there’s there’s others that are out there.
16:36
So I’m trying to let you know that this is happening.
Well, tell me who’s doing it.
Nope.
He wouldn’t say he had he would not tell anybody who he has dealt with.
The only thing he would say is that he that he turned down, I think it was like $20 million to go against, to set up a protest or something against the Trump campaign.
16:57
Like, give me a break, man.
But the service now by, you know, news Network since about 2016 has basically been characterized like this as astroturfing.
Dan Schneider, writing for The Atlantic, said there might be some Gray area between offering a small token of appreciation to otherwise voluntary supporters and full blown thousands of dollars to prop up a struggling cause.
17:20
Seems to fit more squarely in the later category.
Schneider also noted that Swart admitted a a revelation that a campaign is paying for supporters is deeply embarrassing and he takes great pains to keep his clients identities a secret.
17:36
So this guy recognizes that what he does, and it’s not like his company stopped doing this.
Like if you’re trying to turn yourself into a whistleblower, like maybe maybe actually pivot to whistleblowing.
Like if you look at Julian Assange, he had to leave or she, I’m not sure anymore.
17:52
But the they, that person, Julian Assange had to leave the country and get out because he was in such danger.
Because he turned around and said, hey, here is the receipts, here is everything that is going wrong.
And on top of that, when you’re whistleblowing, you’re supposed to whistleblow for the better of society, not for the better of your bank account, OK.
18:16
And that’s what this guy is doing.
He’s realized that because of the sketchy nature of his business, he’s had to turn it around because I’m sure that people have like said, you know what, this isn’t cool.
And they’ve stopped sort of doing business.
They had stopped doing business with them in about, I don’t know, 20/15/2016.
18:33
His company was still there.
They were still making money, but there was probably a drop off, right?
And then he decides, hey, what I have to do is I have to turn it around so that people understand that.
No, like, I know what I’m talking about.
So he’s trying to position himself as the regulator of an industry that is nefarious, but he’s still doing the nefarious shit.
18:50
Dude, it’s really bad.
We don’t need we don’t need a crowd on demand.
That’s such a stupid concept to me.
Like anyway, a Washington Post columnist mentioned an e-mail he received advertising the company’s celebrity arrival service offer it, which they offered to politicians back in the day.
19:10
He says.
I received an e-mail the other day from Crowds on Demand and LA based company that for for a fee will send a bunch of team members to your event, stuffing the crowd with Confederates to make you look more important.
So this lady who was a Madam, reached out so that she could so that I could have her client, this supposedly UCLA graduate who his his background is in surprise, surprise, his background’s in politics.
19:41
OK, political science media, obviously.
So he understands how to get attention.
He understands how to frame things so that they, they get their point across right.
He’s, he’s got the basis for that.
19:57
And as we all know, it does it like picking a politician is, is picking the, the lesser of two evils.
Like they’re all, they’re all shady in some kind of way, right?
So now he’s supposedly trying to make this pivot to being.
This like white knight for the industry or or this whistleblower for the industry, but he’s not naming names.
20:21
If you’re blowing whistles, you’re naming names.
All he’s doing is repositioning himself.
And essentially, he says, he says that he wants to do this to expose the staged, staged protest industry.
OK.
20:37
The problem with staged protests is, is really in this, it’s in the general public.
I think most people can’t be bothered to protest.
Even if we align with the values of the protests or not.
We just can’t.
We’ve got the prices are too high, life is too expensive.
We don’t have time.
20:53
You know what I’m saying?
And I’m sure that a lot of people would love to make time, but they can’t and they don’t.
And then when they sit back, I think like people like me, I’m included in this too.
We sit back, we look at it, we go, that’s friggin horrible.
We should do something about that, but then we don’t.
That’s on us.
But does that mean that we should move into crowdfunding?
21:14
Is that really what we should be doing?
We should be on demanding crowds now to get it to get like, there’s no, once that protest is done, there’s no actual carry over, right?
They just do that.
They get their change and then that’s it.
21:30
Whether the change is right or wrong too.
Because you could just have a business approach this guy and say, hey, my competitor stock is too high.
I want you to go and affect it by picketing his building and then all of a sudden tank that competitor stock.
Nefarious, the great nefarious.
That’s all I’m saying.
21:45
Dude.
It’s fucked up.
Our society should not be at this point.
We are the most progressive sex portion.
We’re at the most progressive point of our evolution.
And this is still, it’s been going on since the dark ages.
OK with this.
22:01
This needs to be changed.
We need to change this.
We need to stop giving platforms to people like this because ultimately, when you say you want to be a whistleblower, miss, say it again.
You need to drop names, dude.
You can’t just say, oh, well, I know a lot of people do it and I’m not telling you who does it, but I know who do.
22:18
Who dos it?
You can’t do that, man.
This guy, when he was saying he was a, he was creating advocacy groups and staffing them.
The bio says this.
We create advocacy groups and staff them with suitable leadership.
What that really means, OK, is this is the, it’s the, it’s the literal definition of a front group.
22:40
He isn’t finding passionate citizens.
He’s inventing organizations out of thin air, giving them a professional sounding lame name like citizens for X or and hiring actors to pretend to be the staff or the leaders of that of that, that that business.
23:00
Like he’s still doing this dude.
It’s not he hasn’t changed his game plan.
He’s just changed.
He’s just trying to affect public perception again and his own.
It’s, it’s his public perception, like the public perception of him.
23:15
It’s it’s literally a criminals playbook, man.
You, you do your criminal shit and then you in inject yourself into society as a donator or whatever and and all of a sudden you’re kind of protected, right?
Like have we has no, have you, have you, have you, have you seen the mayor of Kingstown?
23:33
It’s basically this.
There’s a whole web, I’m sure around it.
And and there is, if you look all this stuff up, you will find a trail of deceit that goes well into the political spectrum.
You know, so he’s his bio also says he’s shaping mergers and acquisitions.
23:51
Now, normally that would mean like, oh, you’re, you’re being a liaison for companies to grow and build and partner, right.
So he says we shape large public Company Mergers and acquisitions.
Again, what this really means is if a company, if company A wants to buy Company B, Swart might hire people to protest outside company BS headquarters to take their stock price or make them look controversial air quotes again forcing them to accept a deal.
24:17
And it’s essentially A protest for hire used as a weapon in corporate warfare.
It’s all deceit and deception.
It’s the same tactics that the dudes in the manosphere use.
It’s the same tactics that you can use in social media to get attention very quickly and move ahead without like you need to have a positive message.
24:35
That’s what I think.
So the other point that he makes it, this is all in his bio.
You can, you can look it up at crowds on demand.com.
I think it is.
Again, I’ll put these in the show notes and I’ll put them on tots420.com in the in the blog that I write for the episode after.
24:53
But when other strategies have failed, this is what his bio says, amplify their message.
Often when other strategies have failed.
The reality is this means when the truth isn’t working, if a project or person is genuinely unpopular, traditional PR which relies on facts fails.
25:13
That’s when you call Swart to manufacture a fake consensus to trick the public or politicians into thinking there’s support where none exists and and effectively refocusing laws, refocusing bills, refocusing industry.
25:30
Both of these people that approached me to have this guy on utilize A deceitful tactic to engage the public.
She relies on her criminal past to create trust as an expert on corruption because she was a Madam.
25:48
It was a whole she was, she was involved in very high, high profile people and Eliot Spitzer being one of them.
He relies on creating truth through a facade of protest using fake crowds consisting of paid actors.
26:06
He’s trying to promote himself as a whistleblower, like I said, but this is not whistleblowing.
This is stepping to the left.
This is a dude, OK, that has recognized that there’s a major issue with the way that he’s being perceived and he needs a hooker or an ex hooker, an ex Madam.
26:28
I don’t know if she was a hooker.
I shouldn’t say that.
Again, this is all my opinion, OK?
And this is what I’ve found on the deep dive, all right, because I have to check into people that request to be on the podcast, but this is the bigger picture, OK?
He’s using a Madam to step to the left because she’s really good at facilitating perspectives, OK?
26:51
And he is also equally as good at interjecting a crowd to facilitate perspective.
We as a society should be worried about the fact that media, social media and all this technology are being primarily used as a negative push to get our opinions to shift.
27:22
We as people, creators, as part of the bigger group, the world and the human race, should be trying harder to put out good information.
Nothing.
27:38
Things that aren’t deceitful, things that if you’re doing entertainment, I get it, be fun, be funny, have a good time, do what you do for entertainment.
But this should not bleed over to the political landscape.
And the more that social media plays a part in this, the more that you know, AI plays a part in this, and the more that there is an advancement of those technologies, it’s just going to get worse and worse to the point where we can’t figure out what the fuck is happening.
28:05
And then people’s brain get mushed out, turn to mush, and the next thing you know, you can’t.
You don’t know what is is real anymore because everything you see is fake, dude.
Now I want to know if you think I should have this person on.
28:22
I don’t think I’ll get a good discussion with them because I think that if I ask who your people are and how you’re and if you’re a whistleblower, why you’re not telling these things then or at least the businesses that you’ve dealt with, right?
I don’t think that I’ll get, I think I’ll get an answer that is very much a scripted PR answer.
28:39
So I don’t see the point of doing this.
But I do think that there are some good things that could come of this.
I just think it should stay away from protest and political.
I don’t think that there should be a hand or a or or a price tag on skewing opinion.
28:57
I know that there is.
I’m not oblivious and I’m not stupid.
I’m just saying that it as a pothead, somebody that likes to smoke weed, dude, I saw through this right away.
I’m not giving you a platform to tell me how how you should be, how, how you can manipulate media.
29:13
You’re going to try and do that on here.
Now.
You can’t really do it on me because I’m good at what I do and I understand people and I don’t really take shit, but there’s you can’t give that that option.
You know what I’m saying?
Those are my thoughts off the stem for this week.
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Hope you come back next week with me.
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Looks Maxxing: Guys Who Smash Their Face With Hammers to Get Dates

Justin Barone host of Thoughts Off The Stem podcast reacts to looksmaxxing and incel culture with Ken and Barbie figures representing unrealistic beauty standards

There are men on the internet hitting themselves in the face with a hammer. On purpose. To get dates.

Justin has questions.

This week Thoughts Off The Stem breaks down Looks Maxxing — the incel community’s full-send obsession with optimizing their face with a hammer and chewing gum — 400 sticks a day to chisel those jaw muscles. If the plan to get a date starts with blunt force trauma to the skull, Justin would like to suggest a different strategy.

Then we pivot to what weed actually does to your skin, because if you’re going to take a hammer to the face you should probably know what your edibles are doing to your collagen first.

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Looks Maxxing: Guys Who Smash Their Face With Hammers to Get Dates

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:00

Looks are the most important metric to your success.

Yeah, that’s right.

You didn’t know that.

I didn’t either, because look at me.

I’m 260 lbs.

I used to be fit back in my 30s.

I was about, no, I don’t know, 185 lbs.

Yeah, I was.

0:16

I was looking pretty lean.

But lately, in my old age and my laziness, I’ve gotten fat.

Now, I would be considered what is a, I forget the term for it.

These kids have so many different terms for things, but basically, I would be less than.

I would be considered like a hermit or like a ogre or something like that.

0:34

I don’t know one of these terms.

We’ll get into that later in the session.

But basically, have you ever heard of looks maxing?

Yeah, I learned about this because of doing the episode last week on the manosphere.

I didn’t realize look, Max looks maxing was even a thing.

0:50

I didn’t know it was a word.

You could put maxing at the end of anything and it becomes a thing.

That’s right.

Yeah, looks maxing, tiptoe maxing where you hide your heels and you stand on your tip toes to, to gain some height.

Dude, there is a serious, there is a serious issue in our society with young people that are delusional or delulu, as they say.

1:13

I call it deluge because you’ve lost your fucking mind.

That’s right.

These kids have no direction.

There’s there’s have you ever heard of clavicular?

Because that’s, that’s how I found out about looks maxing.

This guy Clavicular has been in the news for a while.

He’s 19 years old and at 14 he started using testosterone roids, some meth to to shed his what he considered ugly or unwanted features and the only way that he could do this was by using a legal means.

1:49

OK, Feeding his body full of shit he doesn’t need in the prime of puberty.

Yeah, that’s right.

This guy was so upset about himself that he had to change his entire structure.

Like, physically, OK.

And he wasn’t even like, messed up.

Like when I was a kid and I was in high school, I was 245 lbs.

2:07

I had a beer gut.

Not from beer, but I had a gut because I ate too many Doritos, OK?

And I didn’t go out with a lot of girls.

I don’t think I got my first girlfriend till I was about 18.

I mean, granted, I was playing sports and doing other things, but this guy was so unpopular and people didn’t want to talk to him or hang out with them or invite him to parties that he just started to he just, he just started, he decided to start smashing his face with a hammer, taking meth, OK, using cocaine and doing all these different things that are very detrimental to your health, especially at such a young age to form his body.

2:43

That’s right.

This guy took a hammer to his face.

These dudes, there’s dudes, there’s a whole like section of Society of young men that smash their face with hammers.

Why did they do this?

Because they believe that it’ll create small little stress, stress fractures that will redefine your jawline so that you have a really nice square jawline.

3:07

These kids need parents.

Where are the parents?

I asked my kids about this looks maxing thing.

You know what they did?

They went like this.

They went and they rolled their eyes and they’re like, can you fucking believe it, dad?

And I was like, no, I can’t because I deep dove this shit.

3:24

Dude.

This guy says that he did all these different things, like literally taking math because he thinks it’s just a street form of Adderall.

Basically it’s one derivative away from being Adderall.

Are you are you kidding me?

Also, he started working out.

3:40

He started doing all these things when I was a kid.

OK, if you wanted to look better, you worked out, you lifted weights, you ate better, you ate healthy.

You, you you, you, you did things May I had I knew guys that did steroids too.

But like I’m just saying, you know, the, the evolution of crazy that is happening amongst these young men and these and these children about how things actually are is is absolutely delusional.

4:07

And I think it’s because as the parents aren’t around, the parents aren’t there to be like, what are you doing?

Or they’re not involved enough in their life.

They may be around, but they’re not asking questions.

I ask my kids questions all the time.

I’m a single dad.

I have no choice.

I have to make sure that they’re not making shitty decisions and they can’t think and they can think properly and they’re not thinking stupid like these guys.

4:28

The guy took a hammer to his face and sat there every day for hours just smashing his face.

Not not to bits or pieces or anything, but until it got red and puffy because he believed that it would create calluses or or micro fractures that would reframe his jawline to make it look more square and tough.

4:48

You know what makes you more square and tough?

Fucking work, dude, man work.

Use your hands.

Go dig a ditch.

OK?

You don’t need to be in your home talking on the Internet about how you take steroids and how you take testosterone at the age of 14 to, to 19 and you know you’ve, you’ve totally changed.

5:06

He’s like, look at my appearance.

My appearance has totally changed.

Your appearance changed because you went through what is called puberty, where all of the necessary ingredients to form your features happens.

At this guy, he couldn’t wait, so he started smashing his face with a hammer.

5:24

I know I’m stuck on this, but I can’t fathom this, this process as a thing.

They try to say.

These guys try to say that this is like it’s, it’s all in.

It’s all science proof.

There’s no science to this, OK?

5:41

They chew gum like hard gum.

I don’t know what that means.

They chew hard gum to try and define their jawline.

Go work out.

Go take a ditch.

You know what else you should do?

Maybe go meet people.

And then they say that they did that.

5:56

This isn’t from like a place where they feel bad about themselves or where they feel like where there’s insecurities.

No, they meanwhile, his whole reasoning, OK, he, he said in an interview there, my reasoning for this is not, it’s for me.

6:21

It’s not because of insecurity.

And then went into the fact that the reason that he started doing this was because he wasn’t being invited to parties and people didn’t want to hang out with them and what, you know, whatever.

He’s also highly chauvinistic because again, like I started this, he thinks that the, that for him, but yet you put it out there, he, he thinks that his, the, that his value is 100% due to how he looks.

6:51

Now, I know a guy in high school that also kind of acted this way.

OK.

And so he started working out because he was basically just a skinny little mutt.

And then when he, when he hit like 1718, he or maybe 1617, he decided that he had to get some weight on, you know what?

Everybody made fun of him for the fact that he only worked out his arms because by the time he was 18, his arms were super sized.

7:13

His shoulders were huge.

You know what wasn’t the rest of him OK?

He had little toothpick legs and he had no chest.

He looked exactly if you look up clavicular, if you look up for it, look up his his TikTok videos, you’ll see him flexing and stuff.

7:29

Dude, if he was if he was anywhere near Schwarzenegger, Schwarzenegger would be like what is up with your chest bro?

You have problems.

These guys are mentally fucked.

That’s my take on this.

And I think that we as an older generation are kind of failing them.

7:45

I know that kids are all like, Oh yeah, you know, I know better than whatever.

But like, I think that our generation, because I’m 44, I think our generation as parents, as like leaders, as people to look up to, have really dropped the ball in teaching these kids what is healthy and what’s unhealthy.

8:04

This guy’s problem is not his looks, because if you look at him as a 14 year old versus a 19 year old, he hasn’t changed that much.

The only thing that have that’s changed is that because he worked out he has a better physique, OK, which still isn’t that great, but it’s better, OK.

8:20

And then on top of that, he’s smashing his face with a hammer.

Like what are we talking about?

Who decides that’s a thing?

He does it every day.

That’s failure.

That is failure of the parents to help these young people understand that what they’re doing is self harm.

8:42

It’s self harm.

It doesn’t help you.

And then you start doing steroids and testosterone at a young age, before or during puberty, is going to fuck up everything for you.

Then let’s not even forget about the fact that he’s doing illegal drugs and talking about it on camera in the public fully admits that he does meth.

9:04

Like how are we accepting of this?

How are it’s because of us man, It’s our fault.

I take the blame.

Not like solely, but like as a generation, as a representative of my generation, I take the blame.

I think we fucked up, dude.

I think our, our millennial, you know, and Generation X kind of like, hey, go figure it out.

9:23

Fuck with these kids.

Because when it was go figure it out for us, it was go out in public and see what it’s like to be in public.

And you don’t have all these like detractors like cell phones and tablets and online and all that stuff.

So you had to mingle with people.

You had to learn how to make, how to, how to correct your personality in real time with, with real, with real interaction.

9:44

Now people don’t have to correct their their attitudes in there the way they think, because somebody online will, will attach themselves to that ideology and then turn into and then you turn into this frat boy, fuck boy that that thinks that you know, the way he looks is the is the only way to be in the and and the and the way that you gain success.

10:08

It’s not man be smart, because some of the most successful people you see in life, they’re ugliest sin, ugly as sin.

The ugly made them successful, or at least it had a hand in it.

Let’s all be honest here, OK, You see, you see supermodels with really ugly rich dudes.

10:26

Well, that rich dude is successful, most likely partially, and I don’t mean this for everybody, but most likely partially because he’s ugly and he looks like a foot and he had to do something else to make to make himself successful.

All right.

10:42

There’s a very small, populate small part of the population that actually is attractive enough to warrant the idea that their beauty has anything to do with their success.

It’s insane.

11:00

I can’t believe people follow these dudes, man.

These guys are out of their fucking mind.

Also, if you want to know, just like for guys my age, like if you want to know, this guy’s name was Braden.

I’m, I’m just saying like there’s, there’s, let’s be honest, you name your kid Braden, you’re going to end up with some issues.

11:21

Smashing your face with a hammer is probably not right up on the list of things to worry about, but apparently it’s happening now.

So this week I figured since we’re talking about looks maxing and and you know the the terminology, which you like I said, we’ll get into later in the do for real facts because Oh my God, let’s talk about a shallow generation.

11:40

Dude.

I think it’s Gen.

Z Gen.

ZI don’t know the gender, the gender things.

I don’t know the I don’t know the generational terms for everybody, but I’m pretty sure these guys are part of Gen.

Z.

These guys all have terms for like they’ve blown.

They, they have all these different terms for that make you either, you know, valuable for your looks, or they just tell you that you’re an ugly slob and you shouldn’t be in public or around people or people paying attention to you.

12:08

And I think that I think that a lot of the problem or the lot, a lot of where this comes from is that like when we were kids and we made fun of somebody, there was no like major forum to, to to, you know, overly bully people.

But now because of online, you can just bully the shit out of people.

12:25

And I think that everybody in these younger generations is so inundated with all of this, with all of this social media, that they that that they have no choice but to believe that, you know, they’re less than, which isn’t true.

12:43

You’re not less than you’re you’re just listening to the wrong people talk about things.

These aren’t people that should give you should take advice from.

These are people that you should laugh at and move on.

Like they should be memes, you know, like back when I was a kid, like I said, black when I was a kid, you know, I remember when Metrosexual came out and it was just based on how a guy dressed, if he dressed a little nicer, you kind of make fun of him ’cause you’re like, oh, what are you doing that for?

13:07

It was stupid.

I’m not saying it was right, but that was it.

And, and now these guys are smashing their faces with hammers, chewing hard gum to try and redefine their jawline.

They’re taking illicit drugs to lose weight or to, to, to suppress their appetite.

13:24

You know, like this is not good.

This is not healthy mentally, physically, everything.

So I think that my generation needs to step up a bit and be and explain a few things.

And then I think that because of all of this going on on social media, I think that a good thing to, to sort of point out is the reflection of it to weed because it’s thoughts off the stem and we smoke weed.

13:45

And that’s why I have my pen going because this thing got me so out of shape and out of whack that I was just going crazy for like I could, I was seething, dude.

I needed to bring my blood pressure down.

Even though weed actually brings your blood pressure up, it was still very relaxing.

So basically this week’s weed facts are going to, we’re talking about what happens or whether weed can affect acne, your skin, your looks, your weight, things like that.

14:15

So get ready because here we go.

We’re going to talk about some weed facts and how weed affects your overall beauty.

Attention cannabis consumer.

Attention cannabis consumer.

So this week’s weed facts comes from cosmopolitan.com.

14:31

That’s right.

I had to go to the beauty magazine to find out.

Dude, they do talk to, they do talk to a dermatologist, OK Karen?

Karen Lau, MD So basically this comes from this article Can smoking weed cause acne?

14:49

Now they discuss a few other things other than acne, but basically it’s about whether or not weed affects how you look, OK, and how your skin is.

So research, let’s put it this way, there’s not enough research on marijuana to know if it actually directly effects acne or your skin care or anything like that.

15:07

They just haven’t.

It hasn’t been legal in Canada long enough and it just hasn’t been around in the mainstream long enough for them to be able to set up like control groups to understand this.

So research has shown that marijuana slightly increases testosterone levels, which may be associated with increased acne.

15:24

Why?

Because when your testosterone spikes, so does oil production creating acne, because that’s where acne comes from.

Acne comes from an over excessive secretion.

I think of oils.

I’ll put the thing in the I’ll put the the link in my weed fact section and in the notes of the video.

15:46

So you can really read this and and get a really good understanding if you’re interested.

Marijuana increases appetite as we all know, we get the munchies right?

And if you’re eating a lot of carbs or Doritos or chocolate, this could increase your glycemic index, which has been associated with acne as well.

16:04

I don’t know much about that.

So you know, you just read up and find out.

So we know that THC is an anti-inflammatory and can help with pain, hence the reason for medical marijuana and why CBD as a skin care ingredient was so popular years ago.

In theory, it’s possible that when ingested, THC could possibly have that effect across your entire body, which may possibly calm down inflammatory pimples.

16:30

I’ll tell you this, I smoke weed.

I’ve smoked it pretty regularly for a long time and I still get pimples.

So it happens like along my hat line.

I think it has more so to do with like how you clean your skin and take care of yourself.

THC can help reduce itch and irritation, which is good because a lot of people, or I guess there’s a good section of the population where they’re skin pickers and they develop like rashes and issues with their skin because they pick at it.

16:55

So THC can help reduce itch and irritation, which could go a long way for chronic skin pickers.

I would argue that marijuana may reduce picking in some people because you’re more relaxed, Dr. Lowell says.

So Doctor Lao basically is, is telling you that, you know, if you’re more relaxed and your body is more calm, there’s less like you’re not going to be irritated by those little blemishes and issues.

17:18

Stress and anxiety increases A hormone called cortisol that can overtime spike inflammation and oil production, leading to more acne.

So there’s a couple of things here that we need to like identify.

It’s not really the weed, it’s more so your level of anxiety and what you put in your body that directly effects how your skin looks.

17:37

OK, so THC might be interacting with your skin differently, so in different forms.

So depending if it like edibles like gummies typically contain a lot of sugar, which could spike your blood sugar, potentially causing glycation, a process during which sugar molecules stick to the collagen and elastin in your skin and form advanced glycation, advanced glycation and products also known as AG ES stiffening your skin’s elastin and collagen leading to sagging and wrinkles.

18:07

A blood sugar spike can also trigger break outs but it all depends on how your body handles sugars.

Again, this is all about what goes in your body, not necessarily weed itself because there are some topicals that have CBD topical oils and and creams that have CBD that don’t really irritate your skin.

18:24

I mean some people will get will obviously have issues but for the most part from what I’ve seen it doesn’t and it just helps with whatever it is that you’re supposedly that you’re using this for.

Now smoking on the other hand, could also potentially impact skin as the smoke enters the air around you and sits on your skin.

18:42

Again, another irritant on like an outside irritant factor.

OK, as the smoke enters the air around it sits on your skin.

I already said that.

Similarly, if you’re not regularly cleaning the the lips of your pipes and bongs and and you’re sharing joints and things like that, you could notice more acne around your mouth or like redness.

19:01

Like I get sometimes a little pimple in the corner of my mouth because I didn’t clean my bong, right?

It happens from time to time and I’m 44, dude.

And you can notice more acne around your mouth from bacteria because it’s spreading.

It’s sitting on your bone and you leave it and then the bacteria grows and then you put it on your face and then it spreads to your face.

19:20

And the next thing you know, you have a rash that makes you look like you just came from a glory hole.

So realistically, this week’s weed facts are really about your skin.

Take care of your skin, take care of your face.

19:37

If you’re talking about weed helping you lose weight, again, there’s really no studies on weed helping you lose weight.

A lot of people use weed to work out and focus.

I don’t know that it’s the case.

I’ve worked out with weed and without weed, and I find that weed or no weed, if you’re doing the right things, you know you’ll get the results that you want.

19:59

If you’re thinking about.

Smashing your face with a hammer to restructure your jaw.

I would really hope that before you decide to do this, that’s like joining MMA to like punch different parts of your body to look a certain way.

20:17

Like what are we talking about here?

OK, if you’re one of these people that’s worried about how you look and how people perceive you and, and, and only being judged on how you look, please know this.

That’s not the majority of the population.

20:35

This is a small section of the population that is dumb enough to believe stupid things, and a big part of it has to do with their personality.

The personality is generally the reason that people don’t like you or like them.

It’s not because of how you look.

I’ve seen the ugliest people with the most friends because most people don’t care, dude.

20:55

We don’t care because it’s not healthy to care.

It’s healthy to care in terms of like just trying to take care of yourself and being fit and healthy, but but not to apply it to the fact that this is who you are and this is your value and this is how you become successful.

21:12

Because it’s not.

I told you, man, you’ve seen, look at Harvey Weinstein, OK, I’m not trying to say that that he is a good person.

First of all.

I’m just saying that he was ugly as sin and he was a horrible person or is a horrible person, but he was successful.

21:31

It’s probably a really bad example, but OK, what’s another good example?

The Elephant Man.

You ever seen the Elephant Man movie?

That’s a real thing.

OK, that guy, that guy, a lot of people shunned him because of how he looked.

But in the end, people started to understand that like, hey, it doesn’t matter how you look.

21:50

It’s what’s inside that counts.

And that’s what’s that’s what matters, not what these look, these looks maxing people do.

It’s born from the incel culture, dude, which is involuntarily celibate.

If you’re involuntarily celibate, that that is a bigger, the concept behind that is a bigger issue than just how you look.

22:15

If you, like I said, when I was 18, I couldn’t necessarily, you know, get a girl to save my life.

I was only like really probably about 30 lbs overweight and I was fit.

Like I was relatively fit with a bit of a belly because I like Doritos and pasta and all the things that you shouldn’t eat every single day in large quantities.

22:33

But I still had friends.

People invited me to parties because I was fun.

And I and I learned that, you know, if you really want to be accepted, your personality has to be the thing that people want to be around, not whether or not you have a six pack.

Most people don’t give a shit about that.

22:49

Everybody has a baseline hormone level where if they see somebody attractive, they want to bang them.

I get that.

But that’s not really what this is about.

This is about success, and your success is not determined by whether your jawline is perfectly, but OK, whether you look like a model at AGQ or something like that, that’s not your value, man.

23:10

Just want you to know that.

I want to see kind of like a shift in how we deal with all of this craziness that’s coming out online.

These young people are are listening to the wrong people.

When I was a kid, I looked up to people older than me to understand how I should be right.

That’s what I’ve tried to get across here is younger people need need role models and our generation needs to be the role model.

23:32

Otherwise you’re going to be doing and and and and associating people to the things and the terminology that we’re going to see in the dude for real section segment of the show.

That’s right.

So here it is the the terminology from the looks maxing community.

23:49

Dude for real, for real dude.

So this the the dude for the dude for real segment.

It comes from whatisitbuzzfeed.com because Buzzfeed’s Buzzfeed’s great for all these lists.

Men are smashing their jaws with a hammer.

24:04

These fourteen in cell trends are taking over the Internet and it’s all part of looks look Max it look looks maxing.

Jesus.

It’s just why do they make it so hard to say?

I shouldn’t have smoked that.

So where are we here?

24:23

Here we go, mogging.

Mogging is the first one.

What is mogging?

Mogging derives from a mog, which stands for alpha male of the group.

To mog someone means to display superiority to them.

What to mug?

Oh, to mug someone means to display superiority to them, usually in terms of physical attractiveness and masculinity.

24:45

It’s about showing dominance to someone through looks, masculine, muscularity, confidence, and more.

So if you’re standing beside some dude that you think is not quite as muggable as you or as mugged up as you, then you would, you know, chest out, flex out, put your shoulders out, make yourself look bigger and badder than they are.

25:05

Soft maxing term #2 This is a type of looks maxing that uses mild methods like skin care, diet, exercise, grooming and styling.

So it looks like what’s it called?

Soft maxing is kind of like what you really should be doing, which is taking care of your body, right?

25:23

And your face and your skin and and all that stuff just to be a healthy individual.

Hard maxing, hard maxing is this is a type of looks maxing that involves more extreme methods like surgery, steroids, and even bone smashing the hammer to the face one and bone smashing.

25:39

That’s a thing.

Like I said, bone smashing is an attempt to reshape the bone structure of the face by repeatedly tapping parts of it with a hammer.

The logic behind this is that bone smashing will cause minor damage to the underlying bone, which will change the shape of the face as it heals.

25:57

Insane lunatics do this.

Ascending Ascending refers to the process of significantly improving 1’s physical attractiveness.

Basically it’s the looks maxer version of a glow up.

So it’s how dudes glow up.

Like just change everything.

26:13

Mewing Mewing is a technique involving resting the entire tongue against the roof of the mouth, with lips sealed and teeth gently touching with the with with lips sealed and teeth gently touching with the intention of creating a sharper jawline.

26:29

You may already know or remember this word since it was a huge trend in back back in 2023.

That’s what they say.

The PSL scale The PSL scale is a looks Max or scoring system that assesses someone’s facial attractiveness. 1 Looks maxing forum says it can be better described as giving objective ratings based on facial harmony, balance, symmetry, sexual dimorphism, unique qualities, and average Ness.

26:55

PSL stands for pua hate, short for pickup artists, slut hate and look ISM.

These were misogynistic in cell communities that shaped the looks maxing movement in the 20 tens and now it’s a big thing.

The Chad and the Stacey A Chad or a Stacey basically refers to a very attractive man or woman.

27:15

Chad and Stacey are among the higher scores of the PSL scale.

The PSL scale says individuals belonging to this category would easily stand out in a crowd, often possessing at least one striking feature, if not more.

They typically encounter no difficulties with attracting romantic partners unless facing several mental health issues.

27:35

Oh my God.

Their looks serve as an extreme advantage in various aspects of their lives.

Problem Subhuman A subhuman is a derogatory term to describe people considered the most unattractive.

Subhuman is the lowest score on the PSL scale.

27:51

The PSL scale says individuals falling with this falling with this category are exceptionally unattractive and often exhibit the deformities.

Revealing their face could generally frighten people and they have almost no redeeming facial qualities.

What the fuck dude?

28:08

Sub 5 sub five refers to someone who ranks lower than A5 on the PSL scale, meaning you’re unattractive.

Look ISM Look ISM is the belief that a person’s value, desirability, and place in the world are determined by their physical appearance.

28:26

Looks mask it looks maxing Gesture maxing is to use humor to attract women’s attention rather than relying on your appearance to do so.

Well then I’m just definitely trying to gesture Max baby even though back in the day, not now I have a girlfriend.

Femoid FOID in In cell culture, foids or femoids is a dehumanizing word that refers to a woman.

28:47

It’s short for female humanoid.

And finally, hunter eyes and prey eyes.

Hunter eyes are an eye shape that’s highly desired in the looks maxing communities.

Hunter eyes are described as having almond like contour, deep set position and low set eyebrows.

29:05

They are angled slightly upward toward the temples, a positive cancel tilt in looks.

Maxing hunter eyes are linked to facial attractiveness and masculinity.

They’re the opposite of prey eyes, which are defined as being rounder and having a neutral or negative cancel tilt.

29:23

Which basically your eyes either look up and your eyebrows are nice and low and you just look all sultry, or your eyes look down of slightly and your eyebrows are up and you look like a deer in headlights.

That’s basically what they’re saying.

You don’t want to look like a deer in headlights.

You would you want to look like a hunter that’s looking for his prey, Dude.

29:47

For real.

For real, dude.

So the moral of the story for this week is as a young person, if you’re not getting invited to parties and you’re being left out from the group, there’s probably a bigger reason than just how you look.

30:09

It’s probably your really shitty behavior.

It’s probably your your personality more than anything else.

Because if you suck with if your personality sucks, you could change everything about you.

30:26

But basically it’s just a mask.

And until that you will have, once that mask starts to break down or you get comfortable in it, your personality is still going to shine through.

And when your personality shines through, guess what happens?

People realize the real you.

30:43

And when they realize the real you, they discard you if you’re a Dick.

And that’s basically what’s happening with this clavicular dude.

I guess he is a Dick.

I mean, I watched a bunch of his stuff.

He’s a very shallow, uninformed, uneducated person.

31:00

And it’s bad.

These are not the the guys that that kids should be looking up to.

And as parents, we should really put our effort into trying to make sure that none of that influence, you know, gets to them.

And if they do start seeing that influence, I think it’s our duty as the older generation to sort of smack it back into place.

31:24

Use a hammer if you want.

Those are my thoughts off the step for this week.

I hope you enjoyed the sesh.

I hope you come back next week.

Yeah, if you made it this long, subscribe, like, share, tell me what you think, leave a comment.

31:40

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Let alone, I mean, tell me what you think of looks maxing, but also tell me, tell me what you think about the state of society right now, because it’s kind of fucked, right?

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From the Manosphere to Marijuana: It’s All Ego and Cranky Toddlers

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From the Manosphere to Marijuana: It’s All Ego and Cranky Toddlers

What do a 1930s paper tycoon and a modern-day “Alpha” influencers have in common? They are both fueled by the same thing: A massive, fragile ego and a world-class temper tantrum.

In this Seshisode of Thoughts Off The Stem, we’re comparing the tactics that rich powerful men used during marijuana prohibition and The Manosphere creators, use today. Whether it’s influencers like HSTikkyTokky preaching hate or historical villains like Harry J. Anslinger criminalizing a plant to protect corporate profits, the playbook hasn’t changed in more than 70 years.

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In this episode we’re talking about why the modern Manosphere is actually just a group of “boys” starved for attention and overcompensating for deep-seated insecurities.The 1937 Hemp & Paper Tantrum: How William Randolph Hearst and the DuPonts utilized fear, gaslighting, and political leverage to destroy their biggest competitor: Hemp.The Anslinger Tactic: How the first commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics used “Social Media” tactics before the internet existed to create a monster out of a harmless plant.The Science of Balance: Why real “Alphas” seek homeostasis and balance, not dominance through fear and degradation.

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From the Manosphere to Marijuana: It’s All Ego and Cranky Toddlers

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0:07

My girl stays home, takes care of the kids.

That’s right.

Makes me sandwiches, cleans up after me.

Yeah, that’s right.

Because I’m involved in A1 sided monogamous relationship.

She’s monogamous.

I get to smash whoever I want.

Because women are born with value.

Their value is their tatas.

0:24

And they’re downstairs.

Whoops.

Yeah, that’s right.

That’s right.

They we as men, we have to create.

We have to create our value.

We have to build ourselves up because we’re born with nothing.

These are the stupidest things that I heard in the Louis Theroux documentary Inside the Manosphere from these creators that are the center of the manosphere.

0:46

OK, welcome to Thoughts Off the STEM.

I’m Justin Baroni.

I hope that life’s being good to you.

Thank you for joining me for the sesh.

And yeah, today we’re talking about the tiny little children living inside of these grown ass men that were featured on the Manosphere and some that were not featured on the manosphere.

1:02

I have a couple questions.

My first question is this, when, when did we stop making fun of dudes that drew that drive big trucks and supercars to overcompensate, overcompensate for their micro micro wees?

Yeah, that’s right.

1:18

Clearly that’s what they’re doing.

Because like to me, I don’t know about you, but when I grew up, OK, my my version of a man could be very manly, tough, strong out there.

But what he always did was he always protected women.

He always supported women.

1:34

He would help.

He would, he would help the people around him.

Progress, not take these guys in the manosphere.

They just take dude, that’s all they do.

Their their whole persona is designed to get young men that have no direction and clearly half a brain.

1:51

I mean, obviously to to follow them.

They’re just brainwashing these dudes and they’re brainwashing them so that these guys will pay for their luxurious lifestyles.

Yep, that’s right.

That’s what happens.

And I don’t think a lot of people are realizing this.

Well, we’re until the Louis Theroux documentary because Louis Theroux did a really good job of making these guys look like little boys.

2:16

And I think that it’s it’s insane.

It’s insane that this became like a movement.

These guys obviously have no clue.

They don’t understand anything.

Look at the Tate brothers.

I call them the Tate brothers, OK, because you can’t act like that if you’re not stuck between balls and an asshole for a week or for your life.

2:34

You know, that’s just that’s just that’s, that’s just common sense.

You don’t act like those guys if if you’re not in between a shitty situation and a wrinkly hard place.

That’s all I’m saying.

Dude, these guys are nuts.

2:51

Like and also so everything is ultra masculine, right?

So what they do is they’ll make fun of anything that they deem not to be ultra masculine and then they’ll say the contradictory point.

The contradictory point is something like this, like this guy HS Ticky talky.

First of all, if you’re going to be a dude in the manosphere and you’re going to be the guy that’s telling guys how to be guys, should you really name yourself HS Ticky Talkie?

3:17

Because it that to me sounds like a A5 year old play toy.

Like, that’s not manly to me.

You know, Sylvester Stallone, that’s a manly name.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, that’s a manly name.

Clint Eastwood, manly HS ticky talkie sounds like something that makes music and lights up when you push its keys.

3:40

You know, it does not sound like a dude that I would follow to learn how to be a man.

Let’s talk about him for a second here, OK?

Because that guy in the documentary, he allowed Louis Theroux to follow him around, all right?

And there were so many instances where he’s obviously just provoking people to get reactions for social media and his and his creative content.

3:59

And like, I get it.

But at the same time, I think you should be trying to spread like a positive message, not a negative message.

This guy’s yelling around or running around yelling F the Jews.

He gets into a fight.

This is the other problem with their manosphere mentality.

4:15

OK, so they’re the HS ticky talkie is yelling F the Jews and then some Jewish Jew Jewish dudes decide that that’s not right, so we’re going to kick your ass.

So they so they fight him right.

He’s getting manhandled until his entire team of bodyguards come in.

4:32

If you’re a man and you can handle yourself and you’re willing to go out in public and talk like that in front of the people that anybody in front of anybody, you know, you shouldn’t be saying these things.

You know you’re going to provoke something and then you’re getting your ass handed to you.

So your buddies come in and help you and then you’re like, oh, I’m so tough.

4:49

I’d be to shoot over that guy.

No, you didn’t.

You didn’t on your own and you can’t on your own.

And clearly on your own you’re a wuss, but in a group of dudes that look up to you, all of a sudden this bravado OS out of your chest and you’re all liony and I’m the king of the jungle.

No you’re fucking not dude.

5:06

If you are a man, as a man, you should be able to handle yourself.

You should also be able to conduct yourself in a manner that is not fucked up.

OK?

These guys are all just basically a bunch of frat guys that want to talk shit to make themselves feel better because their inner child rules their life.

5:26

And you could see it in the documentary when it when Louis Theroux was interviewing a bunch of these guys, they all started with the same thing.

They all started talking about how women should be, should be subservient to them and how, you know, men have it work because they have to build something from nothing, where women have, you know, tits and vaginas and that that is their, their value.

5:46

Are you kidding me, dude?

The value of a person is not based on their physical attributes.

It’s based on their character.

And obviously you’re full of shit.

I’ve dealt with guys like that.

Like back when I was in university, OK, I had this one dude, He was a football player.

And he thought because I like to joke around that I was dumb and that he could make fun of me to, you know, progress his own personal want for this one girl, I guess.

6:14

So we were out front smoking a joint, whatever.

I’m talking just sort of being goofy and and messing around.

And then this guy starts making fun of me to try and get this girl to laugh that he likes.

Well, that was a bad move.

Because if you make fun of me in a heart like I’m all about having fun, I’ll play, I’ll play off you.

6:32

I’ll listen and I’ll, you know, I’ll feed into it.

I’ll make you look good if I have to.

If you try to make me look bad, I’m going to make you look worse.

OK, That’s the way it works.

That’s man shit.

Playing the fucking game and not being the dude that’s let you know that being the dude that is OK with everybody and is is trying to get along with everybody.

6:50

And then and then when things get out of line, you’re the guy that’s steps in and solves the problem.

To me, that’s a man, OK?

A man is not a guy.

That said that’s all about like, bitch, get in the kitchen, make me a sandwich, clean up my room.

It’s fucking dirty.

I got something to do.

Don’t talk to that guy because it makes me feel insecure.

7:06

If you’re insecure because your woman is talking to somebody else, you got problems, you should probably break up with her to like relieve her of the duty of having to be with you.

And you should go see a psychologist because there’s something wrong with you.

And a lot of these guys shared that, shared that mentality.

7:23

And you could see when Louis Thoreau questioned them on certain things, you could see that inner child pop out where they they’re clearly creating a persona that they know is controversial.

I think they believe some of what they say, but they’re creating a persona that is is somewhat controversial, right?

7:42

And they’re trying to push that persona.

And then these young men who don’t have any kind of like guideline to follow or to, to, to, to know about what it is to be a man because either they didn’t have a dad or they had a tough upbringing or whatever.

They look up to these guys because it’s like, yeah, I’m asserting.

7:59

I’m asserting my dominance.

You can assert dominance in different ways.

Have you ever?

Have you ever seen the sport of jiu jitsu?

Jiu jitsu teaches you that no matter who you are, what you are, how big you are, how small you are, you can assert your dominance on somebody else, provided that you learn this specific set of techniques.

8:17

That’s kind of like life, dude, as as somebody that goes through life, you should be able to learn and adapt and not you should never cut off one other.

You should never cut off other people for your own personal gain.

You should never use other people for your personal gain.

You should be able to incorporate other people for your gain.

8:36

You know what I mean?

Like, I know that sounds kind of weird, but that’s what I mean.

Like they’re, they’re just, they’re they’re liars, they’re con artists.

They’re full of shit, dude.

And a lot of these young kids, these young men look up to them thinking that’s how you have to be a man, That’s not.

And how you have to be a man, That’s the worst way to be a man.

8:52

Also, supposedly, I remember seeing an article way back when, I guess Andrew Tate took a kickboxing fight, and he was talking about how he kicked the shit out of this other dude.

Again, this is, you know, let’s talk about manly stuff.

This is not manly to me.

This guy said after the fight, after he got beat up and he lost, he said, yeah, I took the fight.

9:10

And then I threw the fight so that I could make millions and millions of dollars.

To me, that’s not a dude.

That says a lot about your character.

Your character is only about the money you’re willing to, you know, run through a whole facade and con people into doing something so that you can get, you can improve your own personal wealth.

9:27

That’s bullshit, dude.

I understand creating a persona and acting in that persona.

Do it.

I this is a persona.

This isn’t all of me, you know, this is all, this is a part of me.

But this, this is what I think people.

This is what I think.

9:42

This is what I want to sort of present to people, right?

Just the guy that’s trying to have fun, has a few rants, maybe seems a little old sometimes, but I would never, I would never put my myself.

I would never, I would never give up a fight.

I would never lose a fight on purpose just for the money.

9:58

I would much rather win the fight.

I have that much pride.

I don’t know about these other dudes because these other dudes seem to just say and do whatever they want just to get a reaction which is which is bullshit.

I don’t know how you can have people on your staff that can either be gay, Jewish women, whatever, and and you just you spew hate speech towards them or about them out in the public.

10:22

And then when the cameras turn around and and catch you on your own, you go, Oh no, I have no problem with all if you don’t have, I have no problem with all these people.

If you don’t have a problem with those people, you wouldn’t fucking talk like that.

Like I get it when you’re joking around with your buddies and you say some offside shit or you know, you’re trying to make people laugh and you say some off site off site shit.

10:40

I get that, but you’re not.

These guys aren’t saying off site shit.

They’re inciting stupid crap.

They’re inciting young men to believe that they can gain something by acting this way.

But in actual reality, all they’re doing is they’re brainwashing these young men into giving them money for courses that don’t do anything.

10:59

They’re brainwashing this young generation to fuel their pockets because they come up with all these crypto currencies, these, you know, betting sites and only fans and all this stuff to try and get you to separate from your money.

That’s what they’re doing.

If you don’t recognize this, young men, listen to me.

11:15

If if you don’t recognize this, that’s exactly what they’re doing.

They don’t give a shit whether or not you succeed.

They’re not actually out there trying to make sure that you do that.

When you come up to them and you see that smile and you hug them and they’re being all, yeah, animated and loving it.

You know why they are?

Because they know that you’re feeding in to whatever it is that they’re trying to, that they’re trying to, they’re trying to do and trying to portray.

11:38

And that means money to them.

So they’re just seeing dollars, you know, and, and every time you go up and say, oh, you’re the best, I love that you talk about this and that it’s bullshit.

Don’t act like that.

That’s not the way to be.

However, having said that, that has been a technique throughout time.

11:58

It’s it’s men, politicians, advertisers have used this as a way to get the public to, you know, glom on to whatever it is they’re doing.

And so for this week’s Weed Facts, we’re going to talk about a group of cranky old men that did exactly this without social media in order to criminalize cannabis.

12:23

Attention cannabis consumer, cannabis consumer.

So this week’s Weed Facts come from cannabismuseum-amsterdam.com.

The Great Hemp Wars and the the idea behind this is that like I said before the break there that there was a group of old rich white politicians that criminalized or work towards criminalizing cannabis for their own personal gain.

12:51

Even though the use of hemp and cannabis would have been a much better situation for all of society.

So the tactics that these manosphere dudes take now are not new.

They’re tactics that have been done for years.

13:08

You just have to figure out where you’re gonna point that.

So in keeping with the manosphere ideology and its high level of self absorbed nonsense, let’s talk about how a group of old rich white guys successfully lobbied to criminalize marijuana because they didn’t really want to make life better for everyone.

13:26

They just wanted to line their pockets.

The first guy, William Randolph Hearst, I don’t know if you’ve heard about him, but he was a very, he was very heavily involved in the pulp and paper industry.

And back in the early 1900s, this dude, 1930s, roughly, this dude was worth $200 million.

13:45

That’s like owning the moon today.

Do you need more money?

You can’t convert other.

You can’t convert pulp and paper factories over to hemp textile mills or pulp and paper mills to hemp textile factories.

You can’t do that.

I feel like you could have in the 1930s.

I feel like that would have been pretty easy.

14:01

In 1935, DuPont released nylon to the world.

It was made from petroleum.

It was hailed as the future through a fabric.

It was perfect for everything from stockings to parachutes.

And the only problem was that hemp was a huge threat to it because of its versatility as well.

14:19

Hemp is super strong.

Hemp is hemp is durable.

Hemp is better for paper.

It’s better for clothing, even though it’s itchy, but essentially it’s a much better, it’s a much better product because of it, because it’s eco friendly, right?

14:35

So hemp became a quick threat to this newfound technology and the company’s profits.

So DuPont decided it had to go along with William Randolph Hearst.

DuPont, William Randolph Hearst, and Harry J Anslinger, who was the first commissioner of the US Federal Bureau of Narcotics, was all about control.

14:56

Yep.

He was appointed there.

And then he decided that he had to in, in order to solidify and grow his career and, and make a name for himself.

He decided that he was going to be the face of making sure that hemp cannabis became criminalized and then no longer usable by society or by industry.

15:19

Right.

So this guy, he was all about control.

He needed to make.

He needed to make a name for himself so badly he set his sights on creating a monster at a cannabis and he utilized the tactics we see on social media today.

That’s right, he would create fear.

15:34

He divide the public, he’d spew hate and lies and make something relatively harmless.

The worst evil imaginable.

Kind of like the bully who can’t fight but is well versed in gaslighting you and then wonders why his head is in the toilet later.

15:51

OK, so in order to cheat to achieve the ultimate decimation of their competitors, Hearst started printing articles in his newspapers, magazines, wherever he could, and advertisements and other documentation to support claims cannabis would make.

Cannabis would make you a killer.

16:07

So he put out articles saying, oh, this guy killed his person because he was on weed.

No, that would never happen.

That didn’t happen.

If you if you’ve got that happening, that’s a psychosis issue.

That’s not, I mean, that’s not necessarily the weed, right?

DuPont got political and sent their network of lobbyists to Washington to target marijuana for political assassination.

16:30

Assassination.

Yeah, that’s right.

They would just start, they started handling, handling hammering Washington with the with the idea that, you know, this hemp is bad, hemp is hemp is horrible, and hemp and cannabis together are killers.

They’ll they’ll turn your family into crazy people.

They’ll turn your loved ones in on you.

16:47

Like, everything bad can happen here because of this one little plant, right?

Now, Aslinger was essentially their talking head.

He would spew hate and lies and ensure the public became haunted by their fear.

Right?

Or by fear.

Sorry.

By an imaginary.

17:04

The by.

By an imaginary fear.

Yeah, that’s right.

So they did all of this together because in 1937 they wanted to support the marijuana TaxAct so that in enabling that actually made or instituting that actually made hemp and cannabis together illegal.

17:24

So now nobody can use it in industry, nobody can use it in production, and you definitely can’t use it to smoke it.

So guess what, 1937’s the tax, the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 became the essential starting point of the war on drugs.

17:41

That’s right.

And these guys, these cranky old white dudes who were worth a shit ton of money, just like the Taint brothers, I mean the Tate brothers and HS ticky talkie, the pull toy from your living room.

OK, They they too use those tactics in order to gain attention, to gain a following, to have this massive amount of support.

18:07

And to sum it up, cannabis became illegal because a group of rich white group of fat rich white guys thought the world’s large took the world’s largest temper tantrum and cut.

And it kind of reminds you of these manosphere dudes, doesn’t it?

They utilized lies, brainwashing and fear to gain or maintain enormous wealth attention cannabis consumer.

18:33

If you think that these these these manosphere dudes, you know, brought in some kind of new thing that people didn’t think they haven’t.

They’ve they’re just using tactics that they know work to get attention.

Maybe they do believe some of this stuff, but the belief in the fact that women should be in at at home, making sandwiches, taking care of the kids and, you know, doing whatever it like that’s so stupid.

18:55

Like these guys.

I don’t even think these guys realize like how fucked up that ideology is.

I don’t think that they realize the irony in how they act because everybody’s like a walking contradiction to a certain extent, right?

19:13

You just try to be the best that you can be at things.

And these guys aren’t really trying to be the best they could be at things.

Because if you watch the manosphere, you’ll see on on some of these podcasts that are featured in it, they bring in women that are are shallow as well.

Like they don’t debate anybody with half a brain.

19:30

They debate stupid people looking for stupid things that are very superficial.

And they do it because they’re slightly less superficial.

No, not even they’re fully superficial too, but they’re slightly less stupid than the people that they bring in.

Like the anytime that they used Louis Theroux or any time that they talk to Louis Theroux, he would turn around and say to them something like, you know, well, why do you do this?

19:53

Right?

And, and it seems weird that you would act like this in front of her and then this and that.

And you would always see the guys do one or two things.

They would.

They would retreat into.

Themselves OK and then they would like drop their head and they really did look like little boys.

20:08

They didn’t look like men like they didn’t they they would they would play off their ideas and they would play off their their you know how they see the world as like well, you just don’t really understand our situation and it’s like no, we understand your situation.

20:24

You want control.

You had no control when you were a kid.

You have no control.

You had, you have really no control now, but you’re trying to exert control and dominance over somebody.

And the only person that you can do that over is the woman that you have in your house taking care of your kids.

Instead of, you know, treating her like the person that she should be in an equal, you’re treating her as less than, you know, And the and the fucked up part is that there are women out there that will that will allow that to happen without an issue.

20:52

And it’s all my life is good.

Anyway, I think that both sides of this whole thing, the P, the women that get involved in the manosphere, the dudes that get involved in the manosphere, I think that there is some kind of trauma in their childhood that makes them stay involved or think that this is the way to be.

21:16

And I’m not trying to be like all super feminist or anything like that.

I’m just saying that as a man, I take offense to the manosphere claiming that’s how to be a man, OK?

Because that’s not how you be a man.

You, you take care of what you take.

You take care of your family, you take care of yourself, you take care of your wife, and you support all of them as well.

21:37

You don’t try to keep them down because you have to feel your pride and your ego meter all the way up because you’re the man and you do things the way you do things.

You know what a man does?

A man is this.

If you’re stuck in, you know, let’s say you go hiking on your own and your and your arm gets stuck in a boulder.

21:55

Yeah, that’s right.

I’m 127 hours in this bitch.

OK?

A man cuts off his arm and goes home.

Those guys are going to sit there wishing that they could cut their arm off, but they can’t.

That, to me, is a man.

A man defends his family.

A A man doesn’t hide them.

22:12

A man doesn’t.

If you’re a man, I get that all people have different kinds of relationships, but as a man, to me, you should if you’re if you’re in a relationship, you should be in that relationship.

You shouldn’t be fucking around with other people unless you both decide that hey, we want a third party and that’s what we do.

22:29

We got freaking freaking, you know, fine, cool.

If that’s your thing, great, But I just think that, you know, you should you should be considerate of the person that you’re with, And I don’t find any of these guys to be that considerate.

And the biggest problem with this stuff is, is like I said, as kids, they’re they still have that inner, inner child.

22:47

That’s kind of that’s, that’s like that controls them.

Like if you could open up those humans and inside them was like a little alien guy running them.

It’s, it’s their inner child.

It’s like, you know, those little bobbleheads or whatever, you’d pull it out and be like, Hey, what’s going on?

How are you doing?

That’s what that’s what that is to me.

23:05

So today’s dude for real segment is all about dummies or dopes.

I like to call people that don’t know things dopes.

This is all about dopes or dummies that have said some of the dumbest shit about women I’ve ever read.

Dude for real.

23:22

For real dude.

So this dude for Real segment is brought to you.

It comes from buzzfeed.com.

Things men said about women, dumb things, stupid things men said about women.

I’ll put the article in the show notes.

I’ll put them on top420.com so you can read them.

23:38

But these are essentially, you know, posts from Reddit or wherever around the Internet that dumb dudes said about women.

So the first one we got here is this guy.

He goes why do women even need gynecologists?

It’s just another excuse for women to pretend their vaginas have so many problems and get the gender oriented pity party they crave.

23:58

In reality it’s little more than a pussy social visit and a puff of perfume.

Let’s face it, if women’s vaginas really did have enough problems to warrant going to a doctor, then that’s because they can’t keep their legs closed and use them too much to manipulate men.

24:16

This is why I’m MGTOWI think that’s men going their own way now.

This person responded.

For the record, there’s a medical speciality called urology which is specifically a penis doctor.

Women only need to go to a gyno if they’re sexually active or have a specific problem.

24:36

So here’s the thing.

I think this is 2 guys arguing over this and quite honestly neither of them really understands it.

OK you need to go.

You need to make sure like there’s there’s pH levels, dude.

See that’s what I’m saying.

24:52

Like guys don’t learn man.

Talk to your woman, see what the deal is.

Learn, listen, understand.

Now this guy is talking about the fact that apparently women don’t poop.

OK, so he starts with dude.

Those were videos dude, not real life experiences.

25:09

Women can’t poop while they’re fertile.

We know baby girls poop since people change their diapers all the time.

And we also know old ladies poop because my grandma pooped her self in the car one time.

Babies and old ladies can’t have babies so the poop.

25:26

So they poop just like men.

But fertile girls don’t poop because that would turn off a man.

Think of why girls complain about having diarrhea and during their menstrual cycles.

Having diarrhea during their menstrual cycles because they’ve stored up 27 to 29 days worth of poop and it’s all hitting them at once, which is a lot to endure.

25:46

Women can’t get pregnant during their menstrual cycles, which is why the poop why they poop.

Then pregnant women also complain about having rough shits and guess what?

They’re already pregnant.

You can’t be double pregnant and so the poop on so they poop uninhibited.

26:08

You cannot prove me wrong.

OK, first of all, dopey MC Doperson, I hope that guy’s like 5.

That’s the only exponent explanation for this shit.

I can’t even.

I don’t even know what to say that.

So here’s the next one.

26:24

So because it’s a seller’s market, men have sex drives.

They want sex even with women who may be less attractive than they could get with tons of work.

So take the easy way out.

Women don’t have sex drives.

26:40

They aren’t hammered with a desire to have sex regardless of the partner.

As such, they date up because their target is willing to date down.

Women maximize the quality, men maximize the quantity.

26:56

It’s it’s why across multiple species, including humans, nature has men creating harems of women and women chase alpha males.

It is what it is.

Control your sex drive as a male and you will be better off.

27:14

Sadly this doesn’t happen because men are idiots.

No, why do dudes only think in terms of sex?

Like all of this stuff has been about either either vaginas or butts or the fact that they don’t want to use their vaginas or their butts.

27:32

OK, let’s talk about this for a second.

Where’d that guy go?

He’s right here.

OK, so like Sir, whoever wrote this, please go talk to your mother or or somebody like fine, you need a female role model.

27:47

OK?

Because that’s insane.

I, if I were being honest in our in my relationship right now, I can tell you for a fact that if you saw it from the outside, you’d be like, that guy has no sex drive, but his girl sure does.

28:05

Just saying this next dude says I never understood how people, especially women, just refuse or don’t want to have sex.

See sex again man, It’s dudes.

That’s not, that’s not all women.

28:21

That’s not what all women are for.

Like that’s not it.

That’s not their whole existence.

They somehow believe that sex is unnatural.

It’s like saying you don’t want food to go into your mouth and that the act of chewing is too much to bear or something.

28:37

She literally can lay on her back, use some lubricant and go to sleep.

There’s nothing more to be done there.

Literally.

And the guy will last all of 3 to 5 minutes with a condom on.

No difference from using a dildo.

28:55

A hard object going into a hole that isn’t meant to go into that.

It’s meant sorry that it’s meant to go into.

Women can have zero attachment, barely even feel their small Dick, and then go right back to watching a movie and eating some popcorn.

29:13

Like how are y’all pretending like a natural lubricate, natural lubricated hole where a penis is supposed to go equals such a torturous act?

Who are these women?

I think?

I think he’s, you know, one of those dudes that hides in alleys and steals people.

29:30

You know what I’m saying?

And maybe he’s part of the Epstein list, who knows.

It’s no different than drinking a glass of water.

Even if you’re not really thirsty at all, it won’t kill you.

Somebody really needs to get laid.

This guy I’m sure has never got his dinky stinky, not even one time.

Now this last guy might be a psychopath.

29:49

OK, Because this is the most insane thing that I have ever heard in my life.

I if I had this thought, I would never tell it to anybody.

So here we go.

Do Stacy’s get wet during school shootings?

Yep, that’s a headline.

That’s what this guy wrote.

30:05

Bear with me, Mandatory preface.

I’m not condoning violence, rather I’m merely inquiring about female biology.

Now that’s a man trick to try and pretend like he’s not a chauvinist douchebag or misunderstanding of every principle ever taught to him.

30:25

So we all know that women love attractive, dominant men within the context of a school shooting.

Yeah, because that’s where we’re going to.

Let’s put the heaviest amount of fear and terror into somebody and let’s see if they want a bone, okay?

The shooter is unequivocally the most dominant man that that is, the shooter transcends his current status in the dominance hierarchy and temporarily becomes an ultra Chad.

30:52

So he is now the most dominant person because he has a gun and he’s shooting people, right?

Given the females close proximity to this ultra Chad during the shooting, one can reasonably conjecture that the females, although scared for their life, experience extreme sexual arousal and attraction towards the shooter, hoping that perhaps rather than shooting them, the shooter has sexual intercourse with them instead.

31:20

Is my theory correct?

Have studies being conducted on this no fuck face.

Nobody does studies on that because that’s what psychopaths want to know.

You should watch that Ed Gaines story because you’re the next guy that’s going to actually turn people’s skin into and bones into bowls and chairs.

31:38

That’s what I think.

That’s a fucked up question.

Dude for real.

For real dude, so.

Basically, the moral of today’s story is that acting like one of these dudes from the manosphere having this like heavily one sided misogynistic attitude towards life is not actually very helpful.

32:02

All it is, is like, it creates A cult like following amongst like young men that know, don’t know any better.

If you’re going to be, if you’re going to be a dude or a talking head, that’s, that’s, you know, supposed to be out there trying to trying to help young men.

I think you have to give them a much better balance perspective on life and everything else because acting the way that the tape brothers act, acting the way that this HS ticky talky dude acts like that’s not being a man.

32:30

Being a man is taking care of your responsibilities, being being confident, self confident, you know, not worrying about like whether your girl is talking to a dude or looks at a dude or this or that.

Like I want if a girl, if a dude hits on my girl, I want her to be like fuck you, which I which she would, but that doesn’t mean she can’t talk to people with this fucking retarded.

32:50

That’s insane.

That’s all I’m saying.

I don’t think that any of this manosphere shit is healthy for anybody.

I don’t even think it’s healthy for the people that are, you know, putting on the persona, because how many times have we seen over the course of history where people start, you know, really pushing that persona.

33:07

Next thing you know, that becomes their whole character really fucks them up.

That’s my opinion and those are my thoughts off the stem for this week.

Thanks for joining the sesh with me, Justin Baroni.

I hope you come back next week to Thoughts off the stem.

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33:29

So if you’re, if you’re experienced the cannabis, don’t worry about it.

I mean, it’d be fun to read the website.

It’d be nice to see you go there.

But if you’re new to cannabis, it’ll give you an outline of, of what to actually expect and, and, and you know how it works and all that fun stuff in a very bare basic form.

33:46

So that you, if you’re thinking of trying it and you’re getting into it or you want to get into it, then you know where to start and you know where to do or know how to do it and how to handle it.

Yeah.

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