Looks Maxxing: Guys Who Smash Their Face With Hammers to Get Dates

Justin Barone host of Thoughts Off The Stem podcast reacts to looksmaxxing and incel culture with Ken and Barbie figures representing unrealistic beauty standards

There are men on the internet hitting themselves in the face with a hammer. On purpose. To get dates.

Justin has questions.

This week Thoughts Off The Stem breaks down Looks Maxxing — the incel community’s full-send obsession with optimizing their face with a hammer and chewing gum — 400 sticks a day to chisel those jaw muscles. If the plan to get a date starts with blunt force trauma to the skull, Justin would like to suggest a different strategy.

Then we pivot to what weed actually does to your skin, because if you’re going to take a hammer to the face you should probably know what your edibles are doing to your collagen first.

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Looks Maxxing: Guys Who Smash Their Face With Hammers to Get Dates

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:00

Looks are the most important metric to your success.

Yeah, that’s right.

You didn’t know that.

I didn’t either, because look at me.

I’m 260 lbs.

I used to be fit back in my 30s.

I was about, no, I don’t know, 185 lbs.

Yeah, I was.

0:16

I was looking pretty lean.

But lately, in my old age and my laziness, I’ve gotten fat.

Now, I would be considered what is a, I forget the term for it.

These kids have so many different terms for things, but basically, I would be less than.

I would be considered like a hermit or like a ogre or something like that.

0:34

I don’t know one of these terms.

We’ll get into that later in the session.

But basically, have you ever heard of looks maxing?

Yeah, I learned about this because of doing the episode last week on the manosphere.

I didn’t realize look, Max looks maxing was even a thing.

0:50

I didn’t know it was a word.

You could put maxing at the end of anything and it becomes a thing.

That’s right.

Yeah, looks maxing, tiptoe maxing where you hide your heels and you stand on your tip toes to, to gain some height.

Dude, there is a serious, there is a serious issue in our society with young people that are delusional or delulu, as they say.

1:13

I call it deluge because you’ve lost your fucking mind.

That’s right.

These kids have no direction.

There’s there’s have you ever heard of clavicular?

Because that’s, that’s how I found out about looks maxing.

This guy Clavicular has been in the news for a while.

He’s 19 years old and at 14 he started using testosterone roids, some meth to to shed his what he considered ugly or unwanted features and the only way that he could do this was by using a legal means.

1:49

OK, Feeding his body full of shit he doesn’t need in the prime of puberty.

Yeah, that’s right.

This guy was so upset about himself that he had to change his entire structure.

Like, physically, OK.

And he wasn’t even like, messed up.

Like when I was a kid and I was in high school, I was 245 lbs.

2:07

I had a beer gut.

Not from beer, but I had a gut because I ate too many Doritos, OK?

And I didn’t go out with a lot of girls.

I don’t think I got my first girlfriend till I was about 18.

I mean, granted, I was playing sports and doing other things, but this guy was so unpopular and people didn’t want to talk to him or hang out with them or invite him to parties that he just started to he just, he just started, he decided to start smashing his face with a hammer, taking meth, OK, using cocaine and doing all these different things that are very detrimental to your health, especially at such a young age to form his body.

2:43

That’s right.

This guy took a hammer to his face.

These dudes, there’s dudes, there’s a whole like section of Society of young men that smash their face with hammers.

Why did they do this?

Because they believe that it’ll create small little stress, stress fractures that will redefine your jawline so that you have a really nice square jawline.

3:07

These kids need parents.

Where are the parents?

I asked my kids about this looks maxing thing.

You know what they did?

They went like this.

They went and they rolled their eyes and they’re like, can you fucking believe it, dad?

And I was like, no, I can’t because I deep dove this shit.

3:24

Dude.

This guy says that he did all these different things, like literally taking math because he thinks it’s just a street form of Adderall.

Basically it’s one derivative away from being Adderall.

Are you are you kidding me?

Also, he started working out.

3:40

He started doing all these things when I was a kid.

OK, if you wanted to look better, you worked out, you lifted weights, you ate better, you ate healthy.

You, you you, you, you did things May I had I knew guys that did steroids too.

But like I’m just saying, you know, the, the evolution of crazy that is happening amongst these young men and these and these children about how things actually are is is absolutely delusional.

4:07

And I think it’s because as the parents aren’t around, the parents aren’t there to be like, what are you doing?

Or they’re not involved enough in their life.

They may be around, but they’re not asking questions.

I ask my kids questions all the time.

I’m a single dad.

I have no choice.

I have to make sure that they’re not making shitty decisions and they can’t think and they can think properly and they’re not thinking stupid like these guys.

4:28

The guy took a hammer to his face and sat there every day for hours just smashing his face.

Not not to bits or pieces or anything, but until it got red and puffy because he believed that it would create calluses or or micro fractures that would reframe his jawline to make it look more square and tough.

4:48

You know what makes you more square and tough?

Fucking work, dude, man work.

Use your hands.

Go dig a ditch.

OK?

You don’t need to be in your home talking on the Internet about how you take steroids and how you take testosterone at the age of 14 to, to 19 and you know you’ve, you’ve totally changed.

5:06

He’s like, look at my appearance.

My appearance has totally changed.

Your appearance changed because you went through what is called puberty, where all of the necessary ingredients to form your features happens.

At this guy, he couldn’t wait, so he started smashing his face with a hammer.

5:24

I know I’m stuck on this, but I can’t fathom this, this process as a thing.

They try to say.

These guys try to say that this is like it’s, it’s all in.

It’s all science proof.

There’s no science to this, OK?

5:41

They chew gum like hard gum.

I don’t know what that means.

They chew hard gum to try and define their jawline.

Go work out.

Go take a ditch.

You know what else you should do?

Maybe go meet people.

And then they say that they did that.

5:56

This isn’t from like a place where they feel bad about themselves or where they feel like where there’s insecurities.

No, they meanwhile, his whole reasoning, OK, he, he said in an interview there, my reasoning for this is not, it’s for me.

6:21

It’s not because of insecurity.

And then went into the fact that the reason that he started doing this was because he wasn’t being invited to parties and people didn’t want to hang out with them and what, you know, whatever.

He’s also highly chauvinistic because again, like I started this, he thinks that the, that for him, but yet you put it out there, he, he thinks that his, the, that his value is 100% due to how he looks.

6:51

Now, I know a guy in high school that also kind of acted this way.

OK.

And so he started working out because he was basically just a skinny little mutt.

And then when he, when he hit like 1718, he or maybe 1617, he decided that he had to get some weight on, you know what?

Everybody made fun of him for the fact that he only worked out his arms because by the time he was 18, his arms were super sized.

7:13

His shoulders were huge.

You know what wasn’t the rest of him OK?

He had little toothpick legs and he had no chest.

He looked exactly if you look up clavicular, if you look up for it, look up his his TikTok videos, you’ll see him flexing and stuff.

7:29

Dude, if he was if he was anywhere near Schwarzenegger, Schwarzenegger would be like what is up with your chest bro?

You have problems.

These guys are mentally fucked.

That’s my take on this.

And I think that we as an older generation are kind of failing them.

7:45

I know that kids are all like, Oh yeah, you know, I know better than whatever.

But like, I think that our generation, because I’m 44, I think our generation as parents, as like leaders, as people to look up to, have really dropped the ball in teaching these kids what is healthy and what’s unhealthy.

8:04

This guy’s problem is not his looks, because if you look at him as a 14 year old versus a 19 year old, he hasn’t changed that much.

The only thing that have that’s changed is that because he worked out he has a better physique, OK, which still isn’t that great, but it’s better, OK.

8:20

And then on top of that, he’s smashing his face with a hammer.

Like what are we talking about?

Who decides that’s a thing?

He does it every day.

That’s failure.

That is failure of the parents to help these young people understand that what they’re doing is self harm.

8:42

It’s self harm.

It doesn’t help you.

And then you start doing steroids and testosterone at a young age, before or during puberty, is going to fuck up everything for you.

Then let’s not even forget about the fact that he’s doing illegal drugs and talking about it on camera in the public fully admits that he does meth.

9:04

Like how are we accepting of this?

How are it’s because of us man, It’s our fault.

I take the blame.

Not like solely, but like as a generation, as a representative of my generation, I take the blame.

I think we fucked up, dude.

I think our, our millennial, you know, and Generation X kind of like, hey, go figure it out.

9:23

Fuck with these kids.

Because when it was go figure it out for us, it was go out in public and see what it’s like to be in public.

And you don’t have all these like detractors like cell phones and tablets and online and all that stuff.

So you had to mingle with people.

You had to learn how to make, how to, how to correct your personality in real time with, with real, with real interaction.

9:44

Now people don’t have to correct their their attitudes in there the way they think, because somebody online will, will attach themselves to that ideology and then turn into and then you turn into this frat boy, fuck boy that that thinks that you know, the way he looks is the is the only way to be in the and and the and the way that you gain success.

10:08

It’s not man be smart, because some of the most successful people you see in life, they’re ugliest sin, ugly as sin.

The ugly made them successful, or at least it had a hand in it.

Let’s all be honest here, OK, You see, you see supermodels with really ugly rich dudes.

10:26

Well, that rich dude is successful, most likely partially, and I don’t mean this for everybody, but most likely partially because he’s ugly and he looks like a foot and he had to do something else to make to make himself successful.

All right.

10:42

There’s a very small, populate small part of the population that actually is attractive enough to warrant the idea that their beauty has anything to do with their success.

It’s insane.

11:00

I can’t believe people follow these dudes, man.

These guys are out of their fucking mind.

Also, if you want to know, just like for guys my age, like if you want to know, this guy’s name was Braden.

I’m, I’m just saying like there’s, there’s, let’s be honest, you name your kid Braden, you’re going to end up with some issues.

11:21

Smashing your face with a hammer is probably not right up on the list of things to worry about, but apparently it’s happening now.

So this week I figured since we’re talking about looks maxing and and you know the the terminology, which you like I said, we’ll get into later in the do for real facts because Oh my God, let’s talk about a shallow generation.

11:40

Dude.

I think it’s Gen.

Z Gen.

ZI don’t know the gender, the gender things.

I don’t know the I don’t know the generational terms for everybody, but I’m pretty sure these guys are part of Gen.

Z.

These guys all have terms for like they’ve blown.

They, they have all these different terms for that make you either, you know, valuable for your looks, or they just tell you that you’re an ugly slob and you shouldn’t be in public or around people or people paying attention to you.

12:08

And I think that I think that a lot of the problem or the lot, a lot of where this comes from is that like when we were kids and we made fun of somebody, there was no like major forum to, to to, you know, overly bully people.

But now because of online, you can just bully the shit out of people.

12:25

And I think that everybody in these younger generations is so inundated with all of this, with all of this social media, that they that that they have no choice but to believe that, you know, they’re less than, which isn’t true.

12:43

You’re not less than you’re you’re just listening to the wrong people talk about things.

These aren’t people that should give you should take advice from.

These are people that you should laugh at and move on.

Like they should be memes, you know, like back when I was a kid, like I said, black when I was a kid, you know, I remember when Metrosexual came out and it was just based on how a guy dressed, if he dressed a little nicer, you kind of make fun of him ’cause you’re like, oh, what are you doing that for?

13:07

It was stupid.

I’m not saying it was right, but that was it.

And, and now these guys are smashing their faces with hammers, chewing hard gum to try and redefine their jawline.

They’re taking illicit drugs to lose weight or to, to, to suppress their appetite.

13:24

You know, like this is not good.

This is not healthy mentally, physically, everything.

So I think that my generation needs to step up a bit and be and explain a few things.

And then I think that because of all of this going on on social media, I think that a good thing to, to sort of point out is the reflection of it to weed because it’s thoughts off the stem and we smoke weed.

13:45

And that’s why I have my pen going because this thing got me so out of shape and out of whack that I was just going crazy for like I could, I was seething, dude.

I needed to bring my blood pressure down.

Even though weed actually brings your blood pressure up, it was still very relaxing.

So basically this week’s weed facts are going to, we’re talking about what happens or whether weed can affect acne, your skin, your looks, your weight, things like that.

14:15

So get ready because here we go.

We’re going to talk about some weed facts and how weed affects your overall beauty.

Attention cannabis consumer.

Attention cannabis consumer.

So this week’s weed facts comes from cosmopolitan.com.

14:31

That’s right.

I had to go to the beauty magazine to find out.

Dude, they do talk to, they do talk to a dermatologist, OK Karen?

Karen Lau, MD So basically this comes from this article Can smoking weed cause acne?

14:49

Now they discuss a few other things other than acne, but basically it’s about whether or not weed affects how you look, OK, and how your skin is.

So research, let’s put it this way, there’s not enough research on marijuana to know if it actually directly effects acne or your skin care or anything like that.

15:07

They just haven’t.

It hasn’t been legal in Canada long enough and it just hasn’t been around in the mainstream long enough for them to be able to set up like control groups to understand this.

So research has shown that marijuana slightly increases testosterone levels, which may be associated with increased acne.

15:24

Why?

Because when your testosterone spikes, so does oil production creating acne, because that’s where acne comes from.

Acne comes from an over excessive secretion.

I think of oils.

I’ll put the thing in the I’ll put the the link in my weed fact section and in the notes of the video.

15:46

So you can really read this and and get a really good understanding if you’re interested.

Marijuana increases appetite as we all know, we get the munchies right?

And if you’re eating a lot of carbs or Doritos or chocolate, this could increase your glycemic index, which has been associated with acne as well.

16:04

I don’t know much about that.

So you know, you just read up and find out.

So we know that THC is an anti-inflammatory and can help with pain, hence the reason for medical marijuana and why CBD as a skin care ingredient was so popular years ago.

In theory, it’s possible that when ingested, THC could possibly have that effect across your entire body, which may possibly calm down inflammatory pimples.

16:30

I’ll tell you this, I smoke weed.

I’ve smoked it pretty regularly for a long time and I still get pimples.

So it happens like along my hat line.

I think it has more so to do with like how you clean your skin and take care of yourself.

THC can help reduce itch and irritation, which is good because a lot of people, or I guess there’s a good section of the population where they’re skin pickers and they develop like rashes and issues with their skin because they pick at it.

16:55

So THC can help reduce itch and irritation, which could go a long way for chronic skin pickers.

I would argue that marijuana may reduce picking in some people because you’re more relaxed, Dr. Lowell says.

So Doctor Lao basically is, is telling you that, you know, if you’re more relaxed and your body is more calm, there’s less like you’re not going to be irritated by those little blemishes and issues.

17:18

Stress and anxiety increases A hormone called cortisol that can overtime spike inflammation and oil production, leading to more acne.

So there’s a couple of things here that we need to like identify.

It’s not really the weed, it’s more so your level of anxiety and what you put in your body that directly effects how your skin looks.

17:37

OK, so THC might be interacting with your skin differently, so in different forms.

So depending if it like edibles like gummies typically contain a lot of sugar, which could spike your blood sugar, potentially causing glycation, a process during which sugar molecules stick to the collagen and elastin in your skin and form advanced glycation, advanced glycation and products also known as AG ES stiffening your skin’s elastin and collagen leading to sagging and wrinkles.

18:07

A blood sugar spike can also trigger break outs but it all depends on how your body handles sugars.

Again, this is all about what goes in your body, not necessarily weed itself because there are some topicals that have CBD topical oils and and creams that have CBD that don’t really irritate your skin.

18:24

I mean some people will get will obviously have issues but for the most part from what I’ve seen it doesn’t and it just helps with whatever it is that you’re supposedly that you’re using this for.

Now smoking on the other hand, could also potentially impact skin as the smoke enters the air around you and sits on your skin.

18:42

Again, another irritant on like an outside irritant factor.

OK, as the smoke enters the air around it sits on your skin.

I already said that.

Similarly, if you’re not regularly cleaning the the lips of your pipes and bongs and and you’re sharing joints and things like that, you could notice more acne around your mouth or like redness.

19:01

Like I get sometimes a little pimple in the corner of my mouth because I didn’t clean my bong, right?

It happens from time to time and I’m 44, dude.

And you can notice more acne around your mouth from bacteria because it’s spreading.

It’s sitting on your bone and you leave it and then the bacteria grows and then you put it on your face and then it spreads to your face.

19:20

And the next thing you know, you have a rash that makes you look like you just came from a glory hole.

So realistically, this week’s weed facts are really about your skin.

Take care of your skin, take care of your face.

19:37

If you’re talking about weed helping you lose weight, again, there’s really no studies on weed helping you lose weight.

A lot of people use weed to work out and focus.

I don’t know that it’s the case.

I’ve worked out with weed and without weed, and I find that weed or no weed, if you’re doing the right things, you know you’ll get the results that you want.

19:59

If you’re thinking about.

Smashing your face with a hammer to restructure your jaw.

I would really hope that before you decide to do this, that’s like joining MMA to like punch different parts of your body to look a certain way.

20:17

Like what are we talking about here?

OK, if you’re one of these people that’s worried about how you look and how people perceive you and, and, and only being judged on how you look, please know this.

That’s not the majority of the population.

20:35

This is a small section of the population that is dumb enough to believe stupid things, and a big part of it has to do with their personality.

The personality is generally the reason that people don’t like you or like them.

It’s not because of how you look.

I’ve seen the ugliest people with the most friends because most people don’t care, dude.

20:55

We don’t care because it’s not healthy to care.

It’s healthy to care in terms of like just trying to take care of yourself and being fit and healthy, but but not to apply it to the fact that this is who you are and this is your value and this is how you become successful.

21:12

Because it’s not.

I told you, man, you’ve seen, look at Harvey Weinstein, OK, I’m not trying to say that that he is a good person.

First of all.

I’m just saying that he was ugly as sin and he was a horrible person or is a horrible person, but he was successful.

21:31

It’s probably a really bad example, but OK, what’s another good example?

The Elephant Man.

You ever seen the Elephant Man movie?

That’s a real thing.

OK, that guy, that guy, a lot of people shunned him because of how he looked.

But in the end, people started to understand that like, hey, it doesn’t matter how you look.

21:50

It’s what’s inside that counts.

And that’s what’s that’s what matters, not what these look, these looks maxing people do.

It’s born from the incel culture, dude, which is involuntarily celibate.

If you’re involuntarily celibate, that that is a bigger, the concept behind that is a bigger issue than just how you look.

22:15

If you, like I said, when I was 18, I couldn’t necessarily, you know, get a girl to save my life.

I was only like really probably about 30 lbs overweight and I was fit.

Like I was relatively fit with a bit of a belly because I like Doritos and pasta and all the things that you shouldn’t eat every single day in large quantities.

22:33

But I still had friends.

People invited me to parties because I was fun.

And I and I learned that, you know, if you really want to be accepted, your personality has to be the thing that people want to be around, not whether or not you have a six pack.

Most people don’t give a shit about that.

22:49

Everybody has a baseline hormone level where if they see somebody attractive, they want to bang them.

I get that.

But that’s not really what this is about.

This is about success, and your success is not determined by whether your jawline is perfectly, but OK, whether you look like a model at AGQ or something like that, that’s not your value, man.

23:10

Just want you to know that.

I want to see kind of like a shift in how we deal with all of this craziness that’s coming out online.

These young people are are listening to the wrong people.

When I was a kid, I looked up to people older than me to understand how I should be right.

That’s what I’ve tried to get across here is younger people need need role models and our generation needs to be the role model.

23:32

Otherwise you’re going to be doing and and and and associating people to the things and the terminology that we’re going to see in the dude for real section segment of the show.

That’s right.

So here it is the the terminology from the looks maxing community.

23:49

Dude for real, for real dude.

So this the the dude for the dude for real segment.

It comes from whatisitbuzzfeed.com because Buzzfeed’s Buzzfeed’s great for all these lists.

Men are smashing their jaws with a hammer.

24:04

These fourteen in cell trends are taking over the Internet and it’s all part of looks look Max it look looks maxing.

Jesus.

It’s just why do they make it so hard to say?

I shouldn’t have smoked that.

So where are we here?

24:23

Here we go, mogging.

Mogging is the first one.

What is mogging?

Mogging derives from a mog, which stands for alpha male of the group.

To mog someone means to display superiority to them.

What to mug?

Oh, to mug someone means to display superiority to them, usually in terms of physical attractiveness and masculinity.

24:45

It’s about showing dominance to someone through looks, masculine, muscularity, confidence, and more.

So if you’re standing beside some dude that you think is not quite as muggable as you or as mugged up as you, then you would, you know, chest out, flex out, put your shoulders out, make yourself look bigger and badder than they are.

25:05

Soft maxing term #2 This is a type of looks maxing that uses mild methods like skin care, diet, exercise, grooming and styling.

So it looks like what’s it called?

Soft maxing is kind of like what you really should be doing, which is taking care of your body, right?

25:23

And your face and your skin and and all that stuff just to be a healthy individual.

Hard maxing, hard maxing is this is a type of looks maxing that involves more extreme methods like surgery, steroids, and even bone smashing the hammer to the face one and bone smashing.

25:39

That’s a thing.

Like I said, bone smashing is an attempt to reshape the bone structure of the face by repeatedly tapping parts of it with a hammer.

The logic behind this is that bone smashing will cause minor damage to the underlying bone, which will change the shape of the face as it heals.

25:57

Insane lunatics do this.

Ascending Ascending refers to the process of significantly improving 1’s physical attractiveness.

Basically it’s the looks maxer version of a glow up.

So it’s how dudes glow up.

Like just change everything.

26:13

Mewing Mewing is a technique involving resting the entire tongue against the roof of the mouth, with lips sealed and teeth gently touching with the with with lips sealed and teeth gently touching with the intention of creating a sharper jawline.

26:29

You may already know or remember this word since it was a huge trend in back back in 2023.

That’s what they say.

The PSL scale The PSL scale is a looks Max or scoring system that assesses someone’s facial attractiveness. 1 Looks maxing forum says it can be better described as giving objective ratings based on facial harmony, balance, symmetry, sexual dimorphism, unique qualities, and average Ness.

26:55

PSL stands for pua hate, short for pickup artists, slut hate and look ISM.

These were misogynistic in cell communities that shaped the looks maxing movement in the 20 tens and now it’s a big thing.

The Chad and the Stacey A Chad or a Stacey basically refers to a very attractive man or woman.

27:15

Chad and Stacey are among the higher scores of the PSL scale.

The PSL scale says individuals belonging to this category would easily stand out in a crowd, often possessing at least one striking feature, if not more.

They typically encounter no difficulties with attracting romantic partners unless facing several mental health issues.

27:35

Oh my God.

Their looks serve as an extreme advantage in various aspects of their lives.

Problem Subhuman A subhuman is a derogatory term to describe people considered the most unattractive.

Subhuman is the lowest score on the PSL scale.

27:51

The PSL scale says individuals falling with this falling with this category are exceptionally unattractive and often exhibit the deformities.

Revealing their face could generally frighten people and they have almost no redeeming facial qualities.

What the fuck dude?

28:08

Sub 5 sub five refers to someone who ranks lower than A5 on the PSL scale, meaning you’re unattractive.

Look ISM Look ISM is the belief that a person’s value, desirability, and place in the world are determined by their physical appearance.

28:26

Looks mask it looks maxing Gesture maxing is to use humor to attract women’s attention rather than relying on your appearance to do so.

Well then I’m just definitely trying to gesture Max baby even though back in the day, not now I have a girlfriend.

Femoid FOID in In cell culture, foids or femoids is a dehumanizing word that refers to a woman.

28:47

It’s short for female humanoid.

And finally, hunter eyes and prey eyes.

Hunter eyes are an eye shape that’s highly desired in the looks maxing communities.

Hunter eyes are described as having almond like contour, deep set position and low set eyebrows.

29:05

They are angled slightly upward toward the temples, a positive cancel tilt in looks.

Maxing hunter eyes are linked to facial attractiveness and masculinity.

They’re the opposite of prey eyes, which are defined as being rounder and having a neutral or negative cancel tilt.

29:23

Which basically your eyes either look up and your eyebrows are nice and low and you just look all sultry, or your eyes look down of slightly and your eyebrows are up and you look like a deer in headlights.

That’s basically what they’re saying.

You don’t want to look like a deer in headlights.

You would you want to look like a hunter that’s looking for his prey, Dude.

29:47

For real.

For real, dude.

So the moral of the story for this week is as a young person, if you’re not getting invited to parties and you’re being left out from the group, there’s probably a bigger reason than just how you look.

30:09

It’s probably your really shitty behavior.

It’s probably your your personality more than anything else.

Because if you suck with if your personality sucks, you could change everything about you.

30:26

But basically it’s just a mask.

And until that you will have, once that mask starts to break down or you get comfortable in it, your personality is still going to shine through.

And when your personality shines through, guess what happens?

People realize the real you.

30:43

And when they realize the real you, they discard you if you’re a Dick.

And that’s basically what’s happening with this clavicular dude.

I guess he is a Dick.

I mean, I watched a bunch of his stuff.

He’s a very shallow, uninformed, uneducated person.

31:00

And it’s bad.

These are not the the guys that that kids should be looking up to.

And as parents, we should really put our effort into trying to make sure that none of that influence, you know, gets to them.

And if they do start seeing that influence, I think it’s our duty as the older generation to sort of smack it back into place.

31:24

Use a hammer if you want.

Those are my thoughts off the step for this week.

I hope you enjoyed the sesh.

I hope you come back next week.

Yeah, if you made it this long, subscribe, like, share, tell me what you think, leave a comment.

31:40

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Let alone, I mean, tell me what you think of looks maxing, but also tell me, tell me what you think about the state of society right now, because it’s kind of fucked, right?

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From the Manosphere to Marijuana: It’s All Ego and Cranky Toddlers

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From the Manosphere to Marijuana: It’s All Ego and Cranky Toddlers

What do a 1930s paper tycoon and a modern-day “Alpha” influencers have in common? They are both fueled by the same thing: A massive, fragile ego and a world-class temper tantrum.

In this Seshisode of Thoughts Off The Stem, we’re comparing the tactics that rich powerful men used during marijuana prohibition and The Manosphere creators, use today. Whether it’s influencers like HSTikkyTokky preaching hate or historical villains like Harry J. Anslinger criminalizing a plant to protect corporate profits, the playbook hasn’t changed in more than 70 years.

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In this episode we’re talking about why the modern Manosphere is actually just a group of “boys” starved for attention and overcompensating for deep-seated insecurities.The 1937 Hemp & Paper Tantrum: How William Randolph Hearst and the DuPonts utilized fear, gaslighting, and political leverage to destroy their biggest competitor: Hemp.The Anslinger Tactic: How the first commissioner of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics used “Social Media” tactics before the internet existed to create a monster out of a harmless plant.The Science of Balance: Why real “Alphas” seek homeostasis and balance, not dominance through fear and degradation.

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From the Manosphere to Marijuana: It’s All Ego and Cranky Toddlers

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:07

My girl stays home, takes care of the kids.

That’s right.

Makes me sandwiches, cleans up after me.

Yeah, that’s right.

Because I’m involved in A1 sided monogamous relationship.

She’s monogamous.

I get to smash whoever I want.

Because women are born with value.

Their value is their tatas.

0:24

And they’re downstairs.

Whoops.

Yeah, that’s right.

That’s right.

They we as men, we have to create.

We have to create our value.

We have to build ourselves up because we’re born with nothing.

These are the stupidest things that I heard in the Louis Theroux documentary Inside the Manosphere from these creators that are the center of the manosphere.

0:46

OK, welcome to Thoughts Off the STEM.

I’m Justin Baroni.

I hope that life’s being good to you.

Thank you for joining me for the sesh.

And yeah, today we’re talking about the tiny little children living inside of these grown ass men that were featured on the Manosphere and some that were not featured on the manosphere.

1:02

I have a couple questions.

My first question is this, when, when did we stop making fun of dudes that drew that drive big trucks and supercars to overcompensate, overcompensate for their micro micro wees?

Yeah, that’s right.

1:18

Clearly that’s what they’re doing.

Because like to me, I don’t know about you, but when I grew up, OK, my my version of a man could be very manly, tough, strong out there.

But what he always did was he always protected women.

He always supported women.

1:34

He would help.

He would, he would help the people around him.

Progress, not take these guys in the manosphere.

They just take dude, that’s all they do.

Their their whole persona is designed to get young men that have no direction and clearly half a brain.

1:51

I mean, obviously to to follow them.

They’re just brainwashing these dudes and they’re brainwashing them so that these guys will pay for their luxurious lifestyles.

Yep, that’s right.

That’s what happens.

And I don’t think a lot of people are realizing this.

Well, we’re until the Louis Theroux documentary because Louis Theroux did a really good job of making these guys look like little boys.

2:16

And I think that it’s it’s insane.

It’s insane that this became like a movement.

These guys obviously have no clue.

They don’t understand anything.

Look at the Tate brothers.

I call them the Tate brothers, OK, because you can’t act like that if you’re not stuck between balls and an asshole for a week or for your life.

2:34

You know, that’s just that’s just that’s, that’s just common sense.

You don’t act like those guys if if you’re not in between a shitty situation and a wrinkly hard place.

That’s all I’m saying.

Dude, these guys are nuts.

2:51

Like and also so everything is ultra masculine, right?

So what they do is they’ll make fun of anything that they deem not to be ultra masculine and then they’ll say the contradictory point.

The contradictory point is something like this, like this guy HS Ticky talky.

First of all, if you’re going to be a dude in the manosphere and you’re going to be the guy that’s telling guys how to be guys, should you really name yourself HS Ticky Talkie?

3:17

Because it that to me sounds like a A5 year old play toy.

Like, that’s not manly to me.

You know, Sylvester Stallone, that’s a manly name.

Arnold Schwarzenegger, that’s a manly name.

Clint Eastwood, manly HS ticky talkie sounds like something that makes music and lights up when you push its keys.

3:40

You know, it does not sound like a dude that I would follow to learn how to be a man.

Let’s talk about him for a second here, OK?

Because that guy in the documentary, he allowed Louis Theroux to follow him around, all right?

And there were so many instances where he’s obviously just provoking people to get reactions for social media and his and his creative content.

3:59

And like, I get it.

But at the same time, I think you should be trying to spread like a positive message, not a negative message.

This guy’s yelling around or running around yelling F the Jews.

He gets into a fight.

This is the other problem with their manosphere mentality.

4:15

OK, so they’re the HS ticky talkie is yelling F the Jews and then some Jewish Jew Jewish dudes decide that that’s not right, so we’re going to kick your ass.

So they so they fight him right.

He’s getting manhandled until his entire team of bodyguards come in.

4:32

If you’re a man and you can handle yourself and you’re willing to go out in public and talk like that in front of the people that anybody in front of anybody, you know, you shouldn’t be saying these things.

You know you’re going to provoke something and then you’re getting your ass handed to you.

So your buddies come in and help you and then you’re like, oh, I’m so tough.

4:49

I’d be to shoot over that guy.

No, you didn’t.

You didn’t on your own and you can’t on your own.

And clearly on your own you’re a wuss, but in a group of dudes that look up to you, all of a sudden this bravado OS out of your chest and you’re all liony and I’m the king of the jungle.

No you’re fucking not dude.

5:06

If you are a man, as a man, you should be able to handle yourself.

You should also be able to conduct yourself in a manner that is not fucked up.

OK?

These guys are all just basically a bunch of frat guys that want to talk shit to make themselves feel better because their inner child rules their life.

5:26

And you could see it in the documentary when it when Louis Theroux was interviewing a bunch of these guys, they all started with the same thing.

They all started talking about how women should be, should be subservient to them and how, you know, men have it work because they have to build something from nothing, where women have, you know, tits and vaginas and that that is their, their value.

5:46

Are you kidding me, dude?

The value of a person is not based on their physical attributes.

It’s based on their character.

And obviously you’re full of shit.

I’ve dealt with guys like that.

Like back when I was in university, OK, I had this one dude, He was a football player.

And he thought because I like to joke around that I was dumb and that he could make fun of me to, you know, progress his own personal want for this one girl, I guess.

6:14

So we were out front smoking a joint, whatever.

I’m talking just sort of being goofy and and messing around.

And then this guy starts making fun of me to try and get this girl to laugh that he likes.

Well, that was a bad move.

Because if you make fun of me in a heart like I’m all about having fun, I’ll play, I’ll play off you.

6:32

I’ll listen and I’ll, you know, I’ll feed into it.

I’ll make you look good if I have to.

If you try to make me look bad, I’m going to make you look worse.

OK, That’s the way it works.

That’s man shit.

Playing the fucking game and not being the dude that’s let you know that being the dude that is OK with everybody and is is trying to get along with everybody.

6:50

And then and then when things get out of line, you’re the guy that’s steps in and solves the problem.

To me, that’s a man, OK?

A man is not a guy.

That said that’s all about like, bitch, get in the kitchen, make me a sandwich, clean up my room.

It’s fucking dirty.

I got something to do.

Don’t talk to that guy because it makes me feel insecure.

7:06

If you’re insecure because your woman is talking to somebody else, you got problems, you should probably break up with her to like relieve her of the duty of having to be with you.

And you should go see a psychologist because there’s something wrong with you.

And a lot of these guys shared that, shared that mentality.

7:23

And you could see when Louis Thoreau questioned them on certain things, you could see that inner child pop out where they they’re clearly creating a persona that they know is controversial.

I think they believe some of what they say, but they’re creating a persona that is is somewhat controversial, right?

7:42

And they’re trying to push that persona.

And then these young men who don’t have any kind of like guideline to follow or to, to, to, to know about what it is to be a man because either they didn’t have a dad or they had a tough upbringing or whatever.

They look up to these guys because it’s like, yeah, I’m asserting.

7:59

I’m asserting my dominance.

You can assert dominance in different ways.

Have you ever?

Have you ever seen the sport of jiu jitsu?

Jiu jitsu teaches you that no matter who you are, what you are, how big you are, how small you are, you can assert your dominance on somebody else, provided that you learn this specific set of techniques.

8:17

That’s kind of like life, dude, as as somebody that goes through life, you should be able to learn and adapt and not you should never cut off one other.

You should never cut off other people for your own personal gain.

You should never use other people for your personal gain.

You should be able to incorporate other people for your gain.

8:36

You know what I mean?

Like, I know that sounds kind of weird, but that’s what I mean.

Like they’re, they’re just, they’re they’re liars, they’re con artists.

They’re full of shit, dude.

And a lot of these young kids, these young men look up to them thinking that’s how you have to be a man, That’s not.

And how you have to be a man, That’s the worst way to be a man.

8:52

Also, supposedly, I remember seeing an article way back when, I guess Andrew Tate took a kickboxing fight, and he was talking about how he kicked the shit out of this other dude.

Again, this is, you know, let’s talk about manly stuff.

This is not manly to me.

This guy said after the fight, after he got beat up and he lost, he said, yeah, I took the fight.

9:10

And then I threw the fight so that I could make millions and millions of dollars.

To me, that’s not a dude.

That says a lot about your character.

Your character is only about the money you’re willing to, you know, run through a whole facade and con people into doing something so that you can get, you can improve your own personal wealth.

9:27

That’s bullshit, dude.

I understand creating a persona and acting in that persona.

Do it.

I this is a persona.

This isn’t all of me, you know, this is all, this is a part of me.

But this, this is what I think people.

This is what I think.

9:42

This is what I want to sort of present to people, right?

Just the guy that’s trying to have fun, has a few rants, maybe seems a little old sometimes, but I would never, I would never put my myself.

I would never, I would never give up a fight.

I would never lose a fight on purpose just for the money.

9:58

I would much rather win the fight.

I have that much pride.

I don’t know about these other dudes because these other dudes seem to just say and do whatever they want just to get a reaction which is which is bullshit.

I don’t know how you can have people on your staff that can either be gay, Jewish women, whatever, and and you just you spew hate speech towards them or about them out in the public.

10:22

And then when the cameras turn around and and catch you on your own, you go, Oh no, I have no problem with all if you don’t have, I have no problem with all these people.

If you don’t have a problem with those people, you wouldn’t fucking talk like that.

Like I get it when you’re joking around with your buddies and you say some offside shit or you know, you’re trying to make people laugh and you say some off site off site shit.

10:40

I get that, but you’re not.

These guys aren’t saying off site shit.

They’re inciting stupid crap.

They’re inciting young men to believe that they can gain something by acting this way.

But in actual reality, all they’re doing is they’re brainwashing these young men into giving them money for courses that don’t do anything.

10:59

They’re brainwashing this young generation to fuel their pockets because they come up with all these crypto currencies, these, you know, betting sites and only fans and all this stuff to try and get you to separate from your money.

That’s what they’re doing.

If you don’t recognize this, young men, listen to me.

11:15

If if you don’t recognize this, that’s exactly what they’re doing.

They don’t give a shit whether or not you succeed.

They’re not actually out there trying to make sure that you do that.

When you come up to them and you see that smile and you hug them and they’re being all, yeah, animated and loving it.

You know why they are?

Because they know that you’re feeding in to whatever it is that they’re trying to, that they’re trying to, they’re trying to do and trying to portray.

11:38

And that means money to them.

So they’re just seeing dollars, you know, and, and every time you go up and say, oh, you’re the best, I love that you talk about this and that it’s bullshit.

Don’t act like that.

That’s not the way to be.

However, having said that, that has been a technique throughout time.

11:58

It’s it’s men, politicians, advertisers have used this as a way to get the public to, you know, glom on to whatever it is they’re doing.

And so for this week’s Weed Facts, we’re going to talk about a group of cranky old men that did exactly this without social media in order to criminalize cannabis.

12:23

Attention cannabis consumer, cannabis consumer.

So this week’s Weed Facts come from cannabismuseum-amsterdam.com.

The Great Hemp Wars and the the idea behind this is that like I said before the break there that there was a group of old rich white politicians that criminalized or work towards criminalizing cannabis for their own personal gain.

12:51

Even though the use of hemp and cannabis would have been a much better situation for all of society.

So the tactics that these manosphere dudes take now are not new.

They’re tactics that have been done for years.

13:08

You just have to figure out where you’re gonna point that.

So in keeping with the manosphere ideology and its high level of self absorbed nonsense, let’s talk about how a group of old rich white guys successfully lobbied to criminalize marijuana because they didn’t really want to make life better for everyone.

13:26

They just wanted to line their pockets.

The first guy, William Randolph Hearst, I don’t know if you’ve heard about him, but he was a very, he was very heavily involved in the pulp and paper industry.

And back in the early 1900s, this dude, 1930s, roughly, this dude was worth $200 million.

13:45

That’s like owning the moon today.

Do you need more money?

You can’t convert other.

You can’t convert pulp and paper factories over to hemp textile mills or pulp and paper mills to hemp textile factories.

You can’t do that.

I feel like you could have in the 1930s.

I feel like that would have been pretty easy.

14:01

In 1935, DuPont released nylon to the world.

It was made from petroleum.

It was hailed as the future through a fabric.

It was perfect for everything from stockings to parachutes.

And the only problem was that hemp was a huge threat to it because of its versatility as well.

14:19

Hemp is super strong.

Hemp is hemp is durable.

Hemp is better for paper.

It’s better for clothing, even though it’s itchy, but essentially it’s a much better, it’s a much better product because of it, because it’s eco friendly, right?

14:35

So hemp became a quick threat to this newfound technology and the company’s profits.

So DuPont decided it had to go along with William Randolph Hearst.

DuPont, William Randolph Hearst, and Harry J Anslinger, who was the first commissioner of the US Federal Bureau of Narcotics, was all about control.

14:56

Yep.

He was appointed there.

And then he decided that he had to in, in order to solidify and grow his career and, and make a name for himself.

He decided that he was going to be the face of making sure that hemp cannabis became criminalized and then no longer usable by society or by industry.

15:19

Right.

So this guy, he was all about control.

He needed to make.

He needed to make a name for himself so badly he set his sights on creating a monster at a cannabis and he utilized the tactics we see on social media today.

That’s right, he would create fear.

15:34

He divide the public, he’d spew hate and lies and make something relatively harmless.

The worst evil imaginable.

Kind of like the bully who can’t fight but is well versed in gaslighting you and then wonders why his head is in the toilet later.

15:51

OK, so in order to cheat to achieve the ultimate decimation of their competitors, Hearst started printing articles in his newspapers, magazines, wherever he could, and advertisements and other documentation to support claims cannabis would make.

Cannabis would make you a killer.

16:07

So he put out articles saying, oh, this guy killed his person because he was on weed.

No, that would never happen.

That didn’t happen.

If you if you’ve got that happening, that’s a psychosis issue.

That’s not, I mean, that’s not necessarily the weed, right?

DuPont got political and sent their network of lobbyists to Washington to target marijuana for political assassination.

16:30

Assassination.

Yeah, that’s right.

They would just start, they started handling, handling hammering Washington with the with the idea that, you know, this hemp is bad, hemp is hemp is horrible, and hemp and cannabis together are killers.

They’ll they’ll turn your family into crazy people.

They’ll turn your loved ones in on you.

16:47

Like, everything bad can happen here because of this one little plant, right?

Now, Aslinger was essentially their talking head.

He would spew hate and lies and ensure the public became haunted by their fear.

Right?

Or by fear.

Sorry.

By an imaginary.

17:04

The by.

By an imaginary fear.

Yeah, that’s right.

So they did all of this together because in 1937 they wanted to support the marijuana TaxAct so that in enabling that actually made or instituting that actually made hemp and cannabis together illegal.

17:24

So now nobody can use it in industry, nobody can use it in production, and you definitely can’t use it to smoke it.

So guess what, 1937’s the tax, the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 became the essential starting point of the war on drugs.

17:41

That’s right.

And these guys, these cranky old white dudes who were worth a shit ton of money, just like the Taint brothers, I mean the Tate brothers and HS ticky talkie, the pull toy from your living room.

OK, They they too use those tactics in order to gain attention, to gain a following, to have this massive amount of support.

18:07

And to sum it up, cannabis became illegal because a group of rich white group of fat rich white guys thought the world’s large took the world’s largest temper tantrum and cut.

And it kind of reminds you of these manosphere dudes, doesn’t it?

They utilized lies, brainwashing and fear to gain or maintain enormous wealth attention cannabis consumer.

18:33

If you think that these these these manosphere dudes, you know, brought in some kind of new thing that people didn’t think they haven’t.

They’ve they’re just using tactics that they know work to get attention.

Maybe they do believe some of this stuff, but the belief in the fact that women should be in at at home, making sandwiches, taking care of the kids and, you know, doing whatever it like that’s so stupid.

18:55

Like these guys.

I don’t even think these guys realize like how fucked up that ideology is.

I don’t think that they realize the irony in how they act because everybody’s like a walking contradiction to a certain extent, right?

19:13

You just try to be the best that you can be at things.

And these guys aren’t really trying to be the best they could be at things.

Because if you watch the manosphere, you’ll see on on some of these podcasts that are featured in it, they bring in women that are are shallow as well.

Like they don’t debate anybody with half a brain.

19:30

They debate stupid people looking for stupid things that are very superficial.

And they do it because they’re slightly less superficial.

No, not even they’re fully superficial too, but they’re slightly less stupid than the people that they bring in.

Like the anytime that they used Louis Theroux or any time that they talk to Louis Theroux, he would turn around and say to them something like, you know, well, why do you do this?

19:53

Right?

And, and it seems weird that you would act like this in front of her and then this and that.

And you would always see the guys do one or two things.

They would.

They would retreat into.

Themselves OK and then they would like drop their head and they really did look like little boys.

20:08

They didn’t look like men like they didn’t they they would they would play off their ideas and they would play off their their you know how they see the world as like well, you just don’t really understand our situation and it’s like no, we understand your situation.

20:24

You want control.

You had no control when you were a kid.

You have no control.

You had, you have really no control now, but you’re trying to exert control and dominance over somebody.

And the only person that you can do that over is the woman that you have in your house taking care of your kids.

Instead of, you know, treating her like the person that she should be in an equal, you’re treating her as less than, you know, And the and the fucked up part is that there are women out there that will that will allow that to happen without an issue.

20:52

And it’s all my life is good.

Anyway, I think that both sides of this whole thing, the P, the women that get involved in the manosphere, the dudes that get involved in the manosphere, I think that there is some kind of trauma in their childhood that makes them stay involved or think that this is the way to be.

21:16

And I’m not trying to be like all super feminist or anything like that.

I’m just saying that as a man, I take offense to the manosphere claiming that’s how to be a man, OK?

Because that’s not how you be a man.

You, you take care of what you take.

You take care of your family, you take care of yourself, you take care of your wife, and you support all of them as well.

21:37

You don’t try to keep them down because you have to feel your pride and your ego meter all the way up because you’re the man and you do things the way you do things.

You know what a man does?

A man is this.

If you’re stuck in, you know, let’s say you go hiking on your own and your and your arm gets stuck in a boulder.

21:55

Yeah, that’s right.

I’m 127 hours in this bitch.

OK?

A man cuts off his arm and goes home.

Those guys are going to sit there wishing that they could cut their arm off, but they can’t.

That, to me, is a man.

A man defends his family.

A A man doesn’t hide them.

22:12

A man doesn’t.

If you’re a man, I get that all people have different kinds of relationships, but as a man, to me, you should if you’re if you’re in a relationship, you should be in that relationship.

You shouldn’t be fucking around with other people unless you both decide that hey, we want a third party and that’s what we do.

22:29

We got freaking freaking, you know, fine, cool.

If that’s your thing, great, But I just think that, you know, you should you should be considerate of the person that you’re with, And I don’t find any of these guys to be that considerate.

And the biggest problem with this stuff is, is like I said, as kids, they’re they still have that inner, inner child.

22:47

That’s kind of that’s, that’s like that controls them.

Like if you could open up those humans and inside them was like a little alien guy running them.

It’s, it’s their inner child.

It’s like, you know, those little bobbleheads or whatever, you’d pull it out and be like, Hey, what’s going on?

How are you doing?

That’s what that’s what that is to me.

23:05

So today’s dude for real segment is all about dummies or dopes.

I like to call people that don’t know things dopes.

This is all about dopes or dummies that have said some of the dumbest shit about women I’ve ever read.

Dude for real.

23:22

For real dude.

So this dude for Real segment is brought to you.

It comes from buzzfeed.com.

Things men said about women, dumb things, stupid things men said about women.

I’ll put the article in the show notes.

I’ll put them on top420.com so you can read them.

23:38

But these are essentially, you know, posts from Reddit or wherever around the Internet that dumb dudes said about women.

So the first one we got here is this guy.

He goes why do women even need gynecologists?

It’s just another excuse for women to pretend their vaginas have so many problems and get the gender oriented pity party they crave.

23:58

In reality it’s little more than a pussy social visit and a puff of perfume.

Let’s face it, if women’s vaginas really did have enough problems to warrant going to a doctor, then that’s because they can’t keep their legs closed and use them too much to manipulate men.

24:16

This is why I’m MGTOWI think that’s men going their own way now.

This person responded.

For the record, there’s a medical speciality called urology which is specifically a penis doctor.

Women only need to go to a gyno if they’re sexually active or have a specific problem.

24:36

So here’s the thing.

I think this is 2 guys arguing over this and quite honestly neither of them really understands it.

OK you need to go.

You need to make sure like there’s there’s pH levels, dude.

See that’s what I’m saying.

24:52

Like guys don’t learn man.

Talk to your woman, see what the deal is.

Learn, listen, understand.

Now this guy is talking about the fact that apparently women don’t poop.

OK, so he starts with dude.

Those were videos dude, not real life experiences.

25:09

Women can’t poop while they’re fertile.

We know baby girls poop since people change their diapers all the time.

And we also know old ladies poop because my grandma pooped her self in the car one time.

Babies and old ladies can’t have babies so the poop.

25:26

So they poop just like men.

But fertile girls don’t poop because that would turn off a man.

Think of why girls complain about having diarrhea and during their menstrual cycles.

Having diarrhea during their menstrual cycles because they’ve stored up 27 to 29 days worth of poop and it’s all hitting them at once, which is a lot to endure.

25:46

Women can’t get pregnant during their menstrual cycles, which is why the poop why they poop.

Then pregnant women also complain about having rough shits and guess what?

They’re already pregnant.

You can’t be double pregnant and so the poop on so they poop uninhibited.

26:08

You cannot prove me wrong.

OK, first of all, dopey MC Doperson, I hope that guy’s like 5.

That’s the only exponent explanation for this shit.

I can’t even.

I don’t even know what to say that.

So here’s the next one.

26:24

So because it’s a seller’s market, men have sex drives.

They want sex even with women who may be less attractive than they could get with tons of work.

So take the easy way out.

Women don’t have sex drives.

26:40

They aren’t hammered with a desire to have sex regardless of the partner.

As such, they date up because their target is willing to date down.

Women maximize the quality, men maximize the quantity.

26:56

It’s it’s why across multiple species, including humans, nature has men creating harems of women and women chase alpha males.

It is what it is.

Control your sex drive as a male and you will be better off.

27:14

Sadly this doesn’t happen because men are idiots.

No, why do dudes only think in terms of sex?

Like all of this stuff has been about either either vaginas or butts or the fact that they don’t want to use their vaginas or their butts.

27:32

OK, let’s talk about this for a second.

Where’d that guy go?

He’s right here.

OK, so like Sir, whoever wrote this, please go talk to your mother or or somebody like fine, you need a female role model.

27:47

OK?

Because that’s insane.

I, if I were being honest in our in my relationship right now, I can tell you for a fact that if you saw it from the outside, you’d be like, that guy has no sex drive, but his girl sure does.

28:05

Just saying this next dude says I never understood how people, especially women, just refuse or don’t want to have sex.

See sex again man, It’s dudes.

That’s not, that’s not all women.

28:21

That’s not what all women are for.

Like that’s not it.

That’s not their whole existence.

They somehow believe that sex is unnatural.

It’s like saying you don’t want food to go into your mouth and that the act of chewing is too much to bear or something.

28:37

She literally can lay on her back, use some lubricant and go to sleep.

There’s nothing more to be done there.

Literally.

And the guy will last all of 3 to 5 minutes with a condom on.

No difference from using a dildo.

28:55

A hard object going into a hole that isn’t meant to go into that.

It’s meant sorry that it’s meant to go into.

Women can have zero attachment, barely even feel their small Dick, and then go right back to watching a movie and eating some popcorn.

29:13

Like how are y’all pretending like a natural lubricate, natural lubricated hole where a penis is supposed to go equals such a torturous act?

Who are these women?

I think?

I think he’s, you know, one of those dudes that hides in alleys and steals people.

29:30

You know what I’m saying?

And maybe he’s part of the Epstein list, who knows.

It’s no different than drinking a glass of water.

Even if you’re not really thirsty at all, it won’t kill you.

Somebody really needs to get laid.

This guy I’m sure has never got his dinky stinky, not even one time.

Now this last guy might be a psychopath.

29:49

OK, Because this is the most insane thing that I have ever heard in my life.

I if I had this thought, I would never tell it to anybody.

So here we go.

Do Stacy’s get wet during school shootings?

Yep, that’s a headline.

That’s what this guy wrote.

30:05

Bear with me, Mandatory preface.

I’m not condoning violence, rather I’m merely inquiring about female biology.

Now that’s a man trick to try and pretend like he’s not a chauvinist douchebag or misunderstanding of every principle ever taught to him.

30:25

So we all know that women love attractive, dominant men within the context of a school shooting.

Yeah, because that’s where we’re going to.

Let’s put the heaviest amount of fear and terror into somebody and let’s see if they want a bone, okay?

The shooter is unequivocally the most dominant man that that is, the shooter transcends his current status in the dominance hierarchy and temporarily becomes an ultra Chad.

30:52

So he is now the most dominant person because he has a gun and he’s shooting people, right?

Given the females close proximity to this ultra Chad during the shooting, one can reasonably conjecture that the females, although scared for their life, experience extreme sexual arousal and attraction towards the shooter, hoping that perhaps rather than shooting them, the shooter has sexual intercourse with them instead.

31:20

Is my theory correct?

Have studies being conducted on this no fuck face.

Nobody does studies on that because that’s what psychopaths want to know.

You should watch that Ed Gaines story because you’re the next guy that’s going to actually turn people’s skin into and bones into bowls and chairs.

31:38

That’s what I think.

That’s a fucked up question.

Dude for real.

For real dude, so.

Basically, the moral of today’s story is that acting like one of these dudes from the manosphere having this like heavily one sided misogynistic attitude towards life is not actually very helpful.

32:02

All it is, is like, it creates A cult like following amongst like young men that know, don’t know any better.

If you’re going to be, if you’re going to be a dude or a talking head, that’s, that’s, you know, supposed to be out there trying to trying to help young men.

I think you have to give them a much better balance perspective on life and everything else because acting the way that the tape brothers act, acting the way that this HS ticky talky dude acts like that’s not being a man.

32:30

Being a man is taking care of your responsibilities, being being confident, self confident, you know, not worrying about like whether your girl is talking to a dude or looks at a dude or this or that.

Like I want if a girl, if a dude hits on my girl, I want her to be like fuck you, which I which she would, but that doesn’t mean she can’t talk to people with this fucking retarded.

32:50

That’s insane.

That’s all I’m saying.

I don’t think that any of this manosphere shit is healthy for anybody.

I don’t even think it’s healthy for the people that are, you know, putting on the persona, because how many times have we seen over the course of history where people start, you know, really pushing that persona.

33:07

Next thing you know, that becomes their whole character really fucks them up.

That’s my opinion and those are my thoughts off the stem for this week.

Thanks for joining the sesh with me, Justin Baroni.

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33:29

So if you’re, if you’re experienced the cannabis, don’t worry about it.

I mean, it’d be fun to read the website.

It’d be nice to see you go there.

But if you’re new to cannabis, it’ll give you an outline of, of what to actually expect and, and, and you know how it works and all that fun stuff in a very bare basic form.

33:46

So that you, if you’re thinking of trying it and you’re getting into it or you want to get into it, then you know where to start and you know where to do or know how to do it and how to handle it.

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When Your Girlfriend Starts Throwing Out Your Crap

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Is your girl slowly getting rid of all your favorite crap? Do you notice that your home doesn’t look like it did a few months ago? Have you ever had to pull a 3-foot hair out of your ass crack before your morning dump?

Welcome to Thoughts Off The Stem, where Justin breaks down the changes that take place when estrogen meets testosterone and your girl starts “cleaning up” your life. From blackout blinds and cupboards full of lotions to “Invisible Assassins”—those rogue hairs that hitch a ride in your ass crack and wrap up your nuts like an anaconda—we’re exploring why your bachelor pad now looks like a penthouse suite at a 5-star resort. At least she added a bar fridge and a decanter full of whiskey to appease the beast… or maybe it was just to distract him.

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But we aren’t just ranting; we’re medicating. If the “Relationship Change” has your chest feeling tight, we’ve got the Anti-Panic Playbook. We dive into the 2024 Johns Hopkins clinical data to reveal the terpenes that act as a biological “off-switch” for THC-induced paranoia. We’re breaking down the science of: – Limonene: The “Anxiety Antidote” that creates a safety net for your high. – Linalool: How the scent of lavender actually rewires your brain’s serotonin. – Beta-Caryophyllene: The “Pepper Trick” that hits your CB2 receptors to ground you instantly.

“Dude, For Real”: We wrap up with the weirdest couple habits on the internet—from the “Ball-Skin Flashlight” experiment to the decade-long mating dances that prove love is the strangest drug of all.Whether you’re dodging “Invisible Assassins” or watching your bachelor pad turn into a high-end spa one lotion bottle at a time, you don’t have to face the anxiety alone.

From the discomfort of change to the clinical science of using Limonene and Linalool to kill the panic, this episode is your survival guide for when life, your girl—and your weed—gets a little too intense.

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When Your Girlfriend Starts Throwing Out Your Crap

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:07

You ever had just like a nice long weekend with your girlfriend?

Everything was was stellar.

It was amazing.

You had all the laughs, you had all the fun times, and everything was good.

And then she went home after the weekend and you’re lying in bed on a Monday morning, getting ready to get out of bed for work and wishing that you could have the weekend back.

0:26

Then you get in the shower.

The next thing you know, you’re washing your parts.

You finish cleaning your ass, you look up and boom, there’s a shower rat sitting on the wall face to face, looking at you.

Yeah, a clump of her hair.

She left it as a little token of, you know, to remember her by.

It doesn’t smell good.

0:42

Like, I like coming into my room or my bed after my girlfriend’s been there and smelling her.

I like that.

I like that feeling, Right?

But that’s not what the hair smells like.

The hair smells like dirty hair, dirty, wet hair.

And it’s right there.

It’s disgusting, dude.

Yeah, that’s right.

You ever had that happen?

0:59

It could be your partner.

I don’t know if guys do this.

I’m bald.

So like, I don’t really know what the deal is with the hair on the wall, but it’s been a thing.

And I should have known ahead of time because I I when I was at her place, I was in her shower and her shower smaller than mine.

So like, you turn around, you can only turn right?

1:16

Like, you can’t move.

Like, my shower, you could do.

Like, you can do activities in it, you know what I’m saying?

But in hers, you can only move her.

And I remember one time again, cleaning myself, and then, boom, shower hair just staring me in the face.

I did not know women do this.

Women take the hair that falls out of their head when they’re showering, and they put it on the wall so it doesn’t fall down the drain later.

1:37

Yeah, that’s right.

Welcome to relationships, and welcome to THOUGHTS Off the STEM.

I’m Justin Baroni.

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Tell me what you think of this whole situation because I’m just trying to make you laugh and give you a little knowledge at the same time.

1:57

So I had this.

So my girlfriend was over for the weekend.

I found a shower rat in my shower and I freaked the fuck out and just about landed face first in the toilet.

Yeah, that’s right.

But how about this?

OK, how about when you get out of the shower?

It’s Monday, right?

So you get out of the shower, you go, you’re going off to do to work, you’re getting ready for the day.

2:16

You feel great, feel clean, you feel amazing because of the weekend and all that fun stuff.

Then about 10:00 AM, it’s time for your 10 AM dump.

OK.

And as you’re walking to the bathroom, you’re like, oh, it doesn’t feel so good down there, but I’m clean.

I don’t know what’s happening.

And as you sit down and take this dump, you realize that there is a hair flossing your ass crack.

2:37

Yeah, I’ve had that happen.

Have you had that happen?

Their hair gets everywhere.

Dude, you’re lying in bed, you wake up, hair in your ass.

That’s right.

So she’s got, so her hair is taking a ride on my caboose.

It’s like a hobo trying to catch a train, okay, And I’m trying to take a dump, but then I have to pull out this hair.

2:58

Now, luckily, the hair I noticed first, so I wasn’t pulling the shitty hair out of my ass crack, right?

But then I didn’t realize that sometimes that hair comes with a little buddy.

And that little buddy, guess what that little buddy is?

That little buddy’s a Bond villain.

3:14

And guess what he’s going to do?

He’s going to strangle the conductors, the conductors of that caboose.

Who are those conductors?

Your balls, your balls are getting strangled by a hair Bond villain.

It is not fun, dude.

OK, I was sitting there.

3:30

I this this happened to me.

I went, I went to take my dump, OK.

And then I felt like the the caboose was being flossed.

And then after I got that floss gone, all of a sudden I feel like a little bit of constraint around the danglies, you know, and then around the danglies.

3:48

What’s happening?

Oh, it’s being killed by some sort of international man of mystery.

And it was it’s it’s the Hare brothers.

The Hare brothers were trying to take me from the back and the front all at one time.

I mean, smart move on their part.

4:04

It’s two against one.

But let me tell you, it was not comfortable.

You know what the other problem kind of thing?

The one of you know what the other issue is with having a girlfriend?

They change everything dude.

My bedroom looked totally different a year and a half ago.

4:22

My whole house did for that matter.

But my bedroom definitely looked totally different.

So before my girlfriend OK my bedroom was a queen size bed.

Just some regular slap blinds, a whole area for activities where I could do cartwheels, jumping jacks, swing my Dick around naked, whatever I wanted to do.

4:43

And then in the corner I had a kettlebell and some weights.

Because you got to keep a little bit toned, you know?

Well, now my bedroom is full.

There’s no room for activities.

The activities have to happen on the bed.

Not that I’m mad at that, but I’m just saying there’s no extra space.

5:02

I now have a king size bed, OK, where the kettlebell and the weights used to be.

I now have, wait for it, a bar fridge.

That’s right.

Now, luckily my girlfriend loves me.

And on top of the fridge is whiskey cups, a decanter full of whiskey.

5:19

I think she put that up there just so that she could get me to have the whiskey so that I would forget about all the space that she’s taken over.

Yeah, that’s right.

Now, there’s good things about this.

Like, I mean, she’s in, she’s made a a huge impact on my life.

5:34

She’s influenced.

My room is more confident.

It’s like a sanctuary now.

It’s amazing.

But it’s also like a hotel room.

Dude, I have curtains.

I have blackout curtains.

Now.

Now, again, don’t get me wrong, I love the blackout curtains because it means we can sleep in later.

And I don’t like sunlight in the morning because I’m not a morning person.

5:53

But these are not things that I would would have done myself.

Have you ever had a girlfriend that just decides, OK, we’re changing everything?

She told me the other day she’s like, I fixed you.

Great.

Thanks for fixing me.

I didn’t realize I was broken.

6:13

Again, I love her.

She does.

She does a ton of stuff, but her idea of fun and it’s But this weekend was the epitome of it.

We’re sitting on the couch having coffee, just hanging out with the dog.

Then all of a sudden she just puts her coffee down.

She’s like, OK, time to clean, time to clean behind the stove in the fridge.

And now within 10 minutes, we’re pulling out the stove in the fridge and we’re cleaning up behind there.

6:32

That’s not my idea of fun.

My idea of fun is going out somewhere and doing some fun things, right?

No, we’re cleaning.

Cleaning is fun for her.

Organizing is fun for her.

One thing that I realized is that in your bathroom, if you’re a dude and you have a bathroom and a girlfriend, your bathroom is no longer yours.

6:50

Like none of that storage is going to be yours.

Under my sink in my vanity.

I used to have, well, I still do because, but it’s very, it’s minimal now because I refuse to get rid of it.

But I had the boxes for all my razors and stuff, like my head shavers and all that because I got a few of them and I thought this was a great idea.

7:07

I thought, you know what’s awesome having these is, is that if I ever move, I could just pack them into the boxes.

I know where they are.

I thought it was brilliant.

She she thinks that it’s stupid because you could just get more boxes.

I thought it was a good move, but now it doesn’t matter because all my boxes are tucked to the side and the back of the of the vanity cupboards.

7:26

And now I have hair curlers, Combs.

I don’t need a comb.

I’m bald.

OK, hair curlers, Combs, lotions.

How many lotions do you need?

Like come on now you have.

I had to put up an extra shelf in the shower because the the shelf that I had was not good enough.

7:44

And then my stuff got moved off the shelf to the floor of the shower.

Like all my shit is just, it’s my shit.

But it’s now it’s where the dog shit would be OK.

But again, I love my girlfriend.

She’s great.

She’s made a great impact on my life and I couldn’t imagine, not like having her around.

8:04

But everything has changed.

My house is cleaner again, not complaining about it.

But like I my version of fun is not vacuuming on Saturday evening, you know, or putting together like different shit she bought me.

If you’re watching this, you could see she bought me this display, my cabinet, because the old one I had, the thing I had in there before was crap and I know that.

8:25

But thank you for that.

She she does provide me with a lot of good things, but the amount of space that I have is definitely diminishing in my own home.

It’s being slowly taken over by her stuff.

So I figured since we have this situation and I’m sure a lot of guys go through this, I mean, girls probably do this too.

8:47

There’s got to be guys out there that, you know, take over space and try to try to fix the situation.

But I thought what we would do is because a lot of these actions that that relationships or people in relationships experience can be somewhat taxing and they can they can definitely like amp up anxiety, right?

9:10

So I thought what would be fun for this week’s weed facts is to talk about what terp profiles or at least what terpenes you should look for in your flower or whatever smoking whatever thing you’re going to smoke.

What, what terpenes you should have in there to help you alleviate anxiety, especially if you have, you know, social anxiety or constant anxiety or consistent anxiety, right?

9:39

So if you find that you are suffering from anxiety and your girlfriend is really pushing that anxiety, you know, level higher and higher by getting rid of all your favorite crap, OK, These are the terpenes that you should that you should look for in the profiles of your purchases.

9:59

Attention cannabis consumers.

Attention cannabis consumers.

This week’s weed facts are from canopycrossroad.com/blog slash Best terps terpenes for anxiety The best terpenes for anxiety relief I think there is.

10:16

There’s 1234.

So the first one is actually Lymanine, which surprised me because Lymanine is the one that gives you like those citrusy notes and scents and smells and, and tastes, right.

10:33

And to me that’s always been associated with like energetic get things done kind of a kind of response, right.

Well, this article is saying that limonine, well let me describe it first.

Limonine is the bright citrusy terpene found in lemon peels, orange rinds and many cannabis strains.

10:53

So if you have that that citrusy smell, it’s because limonines in there.

In a 2024 study published in Drug and Alcohol Dependence, it found that when participants inhaled vaporized deliminine alongside THC, their ratings of feeling anxious and paranoid were significantly lowered compared to just THC alone.

11:16

The study by Spindle ET al at Johns Hopkins tested 20 healthy adults across 9 sessions.

The researchers noticed noted that limonene selectively reproduced sorry selectively reduced anxiety without diminishing TH CS other effects.

11:35

According to John Hopkins Medicine, this finding provides clinical evidence for the entourage effect and suggests that cannabis products high in limonene could offer a wider therapeutic window for those concerned about THC induced anxiety.

So if you have, there’s a couple things here, OK?

11:53

First of all, if you have anxiety and you’re trying to smoke weed to alleviate some of your anxiety, you’re going to find that most of the time you’re going to have to look for an indica.

Even though there’s debate, excuse me, even though there’s debate on whether indica and sativas are actually things anymore for reference because of the ones that relax you, right?

12:15

So those are the types of plants that you’re going to find a lot of these terpenes in.

So that’s one of the big things.

No matter what, you’re going to end up with a probably indica leaning plant in in one way or another because it has to reduce, it has to relax you to reduce the anxiety, right?

So what you need to look for is strains with citrus, lemon or orange in the name because they often contain higher limonene levels.

12:38

Ask a can of Coach or your bud Tender about the terpene profiles when you’re shopping for the flower or vapes because they’re going to know which ones or at least the newer or better products that you can use that are more effective.

So the other thing, where was it?

12:56

I there was something that made that jumped out at me, the entourage effect.

So no matter what, a terpene is not going to do the whole thing, right?

A terpene is not going to be the the component of the plant that totally alleviates anxiety with weed.

13:13

It’s the entourage effect.

All the different things, whether there’s different cannabinoids, terpenes and and THC, those three things make up the entourage effect.

Essentially, you want to have for relaxation, you want to have, you know, a medium level of THC, something that’s going to be more of a body buzz.

13:32

Then you want to have like maybe a tiny percentage of CBD in there just to give you that, that waiting through water feeling, which is nice and relaxing.

And then your terpene profile, depending on the percentages of each terpene together with, you know, the, the CBD and the THC that makes up what, what will reduce your anxiety.

13:54

That’s what I wanted to say.

So the second terpene that you want to look for, which in my opinion is the better, is the most important one because this one is specific to indicas and making you more relaxed.

Linalool, it’s called nature’s calming agent.

14:10

Linalool is the terpene responsible for lavender’s famous relaxing scent.

It is also found in many cannabis strains, particularly those with floral or slightly spicy aromas.

So linalool you can actually find in strains like purple kush is good.

14:26

Most Kushes have have linalool.

You want you want linalool and and pineene to be up near the top of the terpene profile, meaning that they have a higher percentage in the terpene list because those are the ones that affect you the most in terms of relaxation and calming.

14:44

OK, so let’s see here.

A comprehensive review published in PMC found that linalool increases extracellular serotonin levels by blocking serotonin transporters, essentially helping your brain hold on to more of its natural feel good chemicals.

15:02

A 2024 study in Natural Product Communications demonstrated that inhaled linalool promotes parasympathetic nervous system dominance.

The parasympathetic system is your body’s rest and digest mode, the opposite of the fight or flight response that characterizes anxiety.

15:20

So again, these are the things that you want.

You want your, if you’re high anxiety, your anxiety is up because you’re in a state of fight or flight, right?

You want to, you want to alleviate that, stop that from happening and get that rest and digest level of comfort, right?

15:37

Because like, nobody wants to be all strung out all the time.

So research public, sorry.

Research published in Phyto Medicine showed that mice exposed to inhale linalule exhibited reduced anxiety and social interaction tests and decreased aggressive behavior, further supporting its I don’t know how to say this word anxiolytic potential, your potential for being anxious, it reduces it.

16:07

Now they just gave mice linolul.

But essentially, again, you can’t just inhale linolul and calm down.

Though you could light a lavender candle and over time you’ll feel some of the calming effect because when you get those terpenes hit the air and they hit your nose and they they get in there your brain sends gets that message and then all of a sudden the receptors flood and you start to start to find a a base level of relaxation, right.

16:30

So when you’re smoking weed you want to make sure that there are a multitude of components You just don’t want one or two things If you’re really heavy and linalool you may pass out.

There’s a lot of weed that’s used medically, especially for cancer patients.

16:46

Sorry that try to reduce the effects of some of their treatments and linalool can really null that out or numb that out and the next thing you know you you’re asleep on the couch snoring with the cat, right?

So what you want to look for in the in a linalool strain is strains that are described as floral, lavender or slightly spicy often contain they often contain littleool.

17:14

Many indica varieties are rich in that terpene, like I said #3 beta cariophylline, and this one’s pretty common.

It can be in a lot of different types of weed, but it is definitely common in indicas as well.

So it’s called the unique cannabinoid terpene.

17:30

Beta cariophylline is it directly activates your CB2 cannabinoid receptors, the same receptors that CBD interacts with.

Research published published in Physiology and Behavior demonstrated that beta cariophylline produces again this word anxiolytic and antidepressant effects through CB2 receptors activate receptor activation.

17:55

Because CB2 receptors are primarily found in the immune system and peripheral tissues rather than the brain, beta karyophylline provides calming effects without any intoxication.

This terpene has a spicy, peppery, woody aroma.

Think kind of black pepper or cloves.

18:13

So what you want to look for is strains with earthy, spicy or peppery notes.

Beta cariophylline is common in many popular varieties and is also abundant in black pepper, which people use to help counteract THD and THC induced anxiety.

18:28

So if you’re having like a green out or you’re freaking out, a lot of people say take some sugar, take, you know, smell some pepper and it’s supposed to ZAP you out of it #4 Is mirecine the relaxation foundation?

Mirecine is the most abundant terpene in modern cannabis varieties, often comprised, comprising more than 20% of the strain’s terpene profile.

18:52

It has an earthy, musky aroma with hints of fruit.

Research published in Phytomedicine demonstrated mirecine sedative and muscle relaxant properties.

The study by Doval ET al.

Found that Miocene produced motor relax relaxing effects and increased barbiturate barbiturate sleeping time by approximately 2.6 times in mice.

19:20

While studies specifically on Miocene and anxiety are more limited than the Lyman lymanine or little linolule, its ability to promote physical relaxation contributes to the overall calming effect of indica dominant strains.

Meyersine is also believed to enhance the permeability of cell membranes, potentially allowing cannabinoids to take effect more quickly and efficiently.

19:44

So basically it’s like the liaison between cannabinoids, terpenes, THC to the the affected area, your receptors to your affected receptors, right, to get a better quality result.

So what to look for?

20:00

Earthy musky strains, particularly indicas, again, tend to be high in mirecine.

They’re not all.

So you got to check and don’t confuse mirecine with farnesine because farnesine sometimes I’ve found gives you a headache.

So what you want to know about some of these picking a strain or what type you need.

20:20

So the OR sorry how you’re going to smoke it, not the strains.

When you’re picking the method of smoking, these are a couple things you need to know.

So if you’re going to different consumption methods deliver terpenes differently.

Flour offers the full terpene profile when vaporized at low temperatures.

20:37

Higher heat destroys delicate terpenes, so the hotter it is, the less likely you’re going to get the full terpene profile.

When you feel when you get that burnt flavor, that’s when you cook cooked it too much.

When you have that nice tasty, distinct flavor, fruity, whatever it is, that’s when you know you’ve cooked at the right amount vapes.

20:58

So live resin or full spectrum options are the better ones because live resin or full spectrum, they preserve the terpenes.

The thing you got to watch for in some of that is some of that the terpenes that they use in that they actually load into the the the product there.

21:17

It’s not always natural.

So double check that before you do it.

If you get a live resin, it’s, it’s more likely to be natural than it is If you, you, if you have like a distillate, some distillates they, they take terpenes in a bottle and then they inject it into the mixture so that you get that flavor and that smell.

21:37

Go for live resin or full spectrum.

Those ones are the better ones.

Edibles terpenes are often lost during processing though, and some brands add them back in.

Just like I was saying for the vapes, they do that for the edibles as well.

But I guess, yeah, when you’re when they’re cooking edibles because of the heat that you need and and the consistency of everything, you lose the terpenes.

21:59

Tinctures, full spectrum tinctures remain more to retain more terpenes than isolates.

So tinctures are good like different, different oils.

Like, I have a CBG oil that that really does have a distinct taste to it.

22:16

Yeah.

So those are the things that you need to know about what you should use for anxiety and what you should look for if you’re trying to find a flower.

That, or trying to find a product that will help you alleviate some of that anxiety as your girlfriend takes over your life.

22:32

Attention cannabis consumer.

Attention cannabis consumer.

Don’t get me wrong, I love everything that my girlfriend has done for me.

I just think some of these things are really weird.

It’s it’s terrifying waking up and then you turn around in the shower and you’re facing like a, you know, a, a matted mask of hair.

22:52

It’s gross.

It also has a bit of a stank to it because it’s wet hair just sitting there hanging out, like, hey buddy, what are you doing?

Just chilling out in your shower.

I do hate the fact that I don’t know if hates the right word, but I definitely dislike the fact that all my boxes are being made fun of.

23:07

I thought that was a good idea.

Dude.

I want to keep my boxes and we do weird shit too.

Like I watched I watched these TikTok videos and I see all these these girlfriends who sit and complain about their boyfriends or their husbands smacking their ass when they walk by walk by.

23:27

My girlfriend is the best for that because she gets mad if I don’t do it.

I could be in public doesn’t matter doesn’t matter where I am.

I could smack that ass that’s right, she wants it all the time.

She wants all the ass smacking.

Now on the receiving end of that she does stick her finger in my butt quite often like if I’m walking or I bend over to pick something up.

23:47

You got to be real careful because she’ll just stick that pointer finger right in that boop boop and see if I’m.

I’m assuming she wants her hair back, so she’s digging back for her hair.

Every relationship has their weird shit dude.

And this week’s do for real segment.

24:03

That’s right.

Guess what it’s about.

Yep, the weird shit that couples do funny and weird things that they do.

So here we go, dude for real, dude for real, for real dude.

So this week’s Dude For Real segment is brought to you by thoughtcatalog.com/january Nelson slash 2019/11/30 Strange things Couples do that will weirdly make you want a relationship.

24:33

So I picked six of the best ones and I’ve left one for the end because this one’s my girlfriend’s 1 and I was like, what the hell is wrong with you?

So in this one there is These are the funny things that couples do.

So one, whenever he sneezes, I showed aggressive as aggressively as I can shut up, to which he responds even louder.

24:54

You shut up.

This is this is everywhere they go at home, in public, it doesn’t matter.

It’s gotten to the point where I consciously have to stop myself from shouting at anyone else who sneezes.

Do you find that?

I find that, that when we do things like my girlfriend and I, if we’re walking down the street, we talk loud, we talk aggressive.

25:15

Most people probably watch us and think we’re fighting.

We’re not.

We’re just, that’s who we are.

This person said.

This is what she does.

She, she, she shines a flashlight through her boyfriend’s stretched out ball skin and the light really does shine through it.

25:34

I my girlfriend asked me a lot of things about balls.

Like you ever done the bat wing?

I come out of the shower sometimes waggling my Dick.

Apparently that’s the thing, a lot of guys do that.

So there you go ladies.

We’re If you have a boyfriend that doesn’t waggle his Dick, do you really have the right dude?

25:52

I would let my girlfriend shine a light through my ball sack.

I think it would be funny, this person said.

We have a mating dance that’s gotten increasingly elaborate in the decade we’ve been together.

So the examples are slapping one’s own butt, doing the little horsey ride right, moving one’s arms like a Choo Choo train, and A1 handed clapping.

26:17

I don’t know how they do that.

I clap my neck, but I wouldn’t clap with my hand.

I would just slap my Dong against my leg.

Flat, flat, flat.

It’s like a guy’s version of twerking.

This person says #4 see, listens to his weird tummy sounds and then vocalizes them very loudly.

26:38

So I’m, I’m guessing because my girlfriend and I also do this, I put my head on her stomach and then you hear, you know, like it’s, that’s got to be a couple thing.

I feel like there’s a lot of people that probably do that.

We also compare like if sometimes you’ll hear my stomach do something and you’ll sometimes hear her stomach do something and then we’re like, do you hear it?

26:59

Do you hear it?

Do you hear that go.

And then we ask each other if we have farts and I squeeze her like ketchup #5 we often they off these people often stand in each other’s way for no reason other than to be annoying.

So like, I’m at you’re walking down the hall and they just step.

27:16

I do that.

I do that all the time.

If my girlfriend’s pissed off at me, I stand in front of her.

I don’t let her go anywhere.

That’s right, a kidnapper in space.

Now this one, this one is a little weird.

This one’s number six a penis drawings, this guy says.

27:32

I don’t remember who started it, but we hide the same penis drawing for the other one to find.

She put it in my suitcase when I went away on a hunting trip with my buddies, and I had to explain why I had a crudely drawn Wang on a sheet of notebook paper packed with my socks.

27:48

When I returned, I hit it in the bottom of her underwear drawer and it took her a few months to find it.

She then hit it somewhere and I haven’t found it yet.

That was five years ago.

She told me.

I’ll find it.

I’ll find it eventually, but I’m afraid of where it might be.

I have to.

I’ve told her that if she dies before me, she’s getting buried with it and I win.

28:09

I like that guy.

That guy nailed it.

My girlfriend’s weird thing is she likes to Watch Dogs poop.

Yep, make full contact.

Full eye contact baby.

That’s right, just just watching it.

It’s weird.

I caught her doing it the other day when she was staring out the back window.

28:27

Dude for real dude.

For real for real dude.

So the moral of the story for this week is pretty simple.

If your girlfriend improves your life, wash that anxiety away with some good solid indica weed and just let her do her thing.

28:44

Because no matter what, she’s going to make your life better.

Because let’s be honest, we’re dudes.

Most of us are dirty, lazy, and we don’t do a whole lot.

So if she’s making an impact on your life, that’s positive.

Let her have her things.

Let her take over your spaces.

29:01

That’s just the way it goes.

And that’s, I think a good part to a healthy relationship.

And those are my thoughts off the stem for this week.

I hope you enjoyed the sesh.

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29:17

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Stoner Moments, Buckets and Life Lessons

Cartoon illustration of Justin Barone from Thoughts Off The Stem podcast giving a thumbs up. The text "HIGH LESSONS" appears in bold yellow letters against a green and cosmic purple background. A bucket labeled "BUCKET" holds a history book and timeline scroll.

Ever had your gut tell you “Don’t do it,” only to have your brain say “Watch this” and your high self say “Hold my beer”? Welcome to Thoughts Off The Stem.

In this episode, host Justin Peron recounts the legendary university story of his first Gravity Bong (Bucket) experience—a literal “atom bomb” of smoke that resulted in a 4-hour blackout on a stranger’s couch. But once we clear the smoke, we’re diving into the deep history of cannabis. Did you know ancient shamans were buried with caches of weed 2,700 years ago? Or that the “War on Drugs” was actually a battle over paper and hemp?

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Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy
Stoner Moments, Buckets and Life Lessons
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  • High Lesson: Why you should never let someone else control the “mechanism” of your life (or your bong).
  • Ancient Weed Facts: Exploring 10,000 years of human cannabis use, from ancient Chinese braziers to the US Pharmacopeia.
  • The Paper vs. Hemp Conspiracy: The real reason cannabis became a Schedule I drug.
  • Dude, For Real?: A breakdown of the funniest “high-atry” stories—including the girl who convinced herself she could walk and the person who tried to blow on their ice cream because it was “too hot.”

Life is full of lessons, but sometimes you have to learn them the hard way. Whether you’re here for the laughs or the deep-dive history, pull up a chair, light one up, and let’s get into it.

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Stoner Moments, Buckets and Life Lessons

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:06

Have you ever done something that your brain and your gut told you not to?

Do just totally.

Ignored it.

Decided that hey.

I’m living in my world.

That’s how it goes.

And then after you did that thing, you.

0:22

Realized that life.

Was teaching you a lesson?

Yeah, I’ve been there too.

Welcome to Thoughts off the Stem.

I’m Justin Peroni.

I hope life’s being good.

To you because.

In this instance.

Life was.

Teaching me a lesson along with my.

0:38

Own stupidity, Yeah, that’s right.

So.

Have you ever?

Done.

I don’t know about you.

But I like smoking weed.

Have you ever done buckets?

Do you know what?

Buckets are.

So buckets are basically.

Like the?

Poor man’s super bomb.

0:54

OK, you take a bucket and you pour a lot of water in it, like.

More than a liter, you could take a 5.

Gallon pail and put you know.

About half of that of water, then you take.

A2.

Liter pop bottle.

1:10

You cut it in half, OK, You put some foil on top of that two liter, that 2 liter pop bottle.

You put your little cut up nug in top of that, on top of that and then you submerge.

The cut off part of the. 2 liter pop bottle into water then you light you make it so that.

1:28

The the bottle is full.

Of water and then you you light the weed.

And as you do so, you pull up the the the. 2 liter pop bottle and it fills.

With, you know, 2 liters of weed essentially.

OK then.

You take the.

1:44

You take the.

Weed off.

Of it and you push it back down into the water and it.

Force feeds you the biggest cloud of smoke.

You’ve ever had.

Yeah, that’s right.

So this one time in university my buddy and I we wanted to get some weed and we only knew one guy in town that wasn’t dry.

2:02

For that weekend.

So we decided what we decided to do was.

We gave him a call and then we went over to his house.

I’d never been at his house before.

Well, he was.

Kind of he.

Was a chef.

So what he was was basically.

Like the?

MacGyver of weed.

For our little.

2:18

Friend group.

This guy, he grew it.

He knew he had different.

Strains for different.

Times of the day.

He was like you’re.

He was like you’re.

How high, friend?

You know what I mean?

Like.

He was that guy that.

Just knew everything about weed and he sold it on the.

Side I shouldn’t say that, but he did it’s it’s.

2:34

Way past a long time ago.

And then and then.

So we went over to see him and then when we went to see him, he was in the middle of how of getting ready for having a sesh.

And he goes, hey man, you want to smoke with me?

And.

Of course we’re.

College kids, we’re like, yeah.

Absolutely.

I want to smoke with you.

2:49

So he he.

Brings out.

This bucket.

And I go.

I was relatively like.

New to smoking in like?

Such different ways.

OK, I was used to smoke at joints.

Maybe the?

Bong.

Occasionally, but primarily joints and pipes.

And he brings out a bucket.

3:05

Half full.

Of water and then he breaks out a 2 liter pop bottle.

No, actually it.

Wasn’t a 2 liter pop bottle, it was one of those big water jugs.

Like it just barely fit.

Like with a with a tiny little amount of room in between the wall of the bucket and the wall of the jug.

3:21

And he would, and that’s what he.

Used so you.

Were getting like an atom bomb’s worth of smoke.

It was as if it.

Blew up right in your face and you had to inhale the whole aftermath.

Good luck dude.

So he sets.

This up and I go, what is that?

And he goes.

Oh, this is.

Buckets I go.

3:37

Oh, buckets like it’s nothing.

It’s.

It looks like quite the science.

Experiment here, Sir.

And so he.

Proceeds to laugh.

And then so does my buddy because apparently my buddy done buckets before and they go hey you want to do buckets for?

Your first.

Time and.

I was like, of course I do because I want to.

Fit in.

Well, this is what happens.

3:54

OK, so he, he, he submerges the the.

Water jug into the water and he lights the weed and he pulls it up and it fills with probably.

What is like?

I don’t know, close.

To 4 liters of smoke.

OK.

4:10

And then?

He proceeds to say here.

You go and then he pushes the bucket down and I’m trying to inhale it and it just fills my entire head with smoke, like it was coming out my ears like a cartoon, OK?

Well, as soon as I hit it I started coughing.

4:25

Like a maniac.

Like a maniac.

OK, I think I’m going to die from lack of oxygen.

Him and my buddy are laughing at me because I’m an idiot.

And then as it.

4:40

All starts to wear off.

And I settle in.

I just look.

Over at him I go.

I’m.

Going to.

Be here.

For a while, dude.

And then I.

Proceeded to pass.

Out on his couch.

You ever?

You ever?

Woke up in.

Strange surroundings.

Wishing you had a safe.

Space.

We didn’t have safe spaces back then, but that’s what.

4:58

Happened to me about. 4 hours later.

I wake up.

Trying to figure out where the fuck I am.

Didn’t recognize the house because it’s the first time I’ve been.

There all all.

The people in the living room were different now.

Luckily I only lived like a block away.

My buddy had gone home.

5:15

I passed out on their couch.

The Stranger.

‘S house.

They started playing NHL Nine 2008 No.

Sorry, 2000.

And two.

With me in the middle of the couch, they just sat around me.

Didn’t matter.

They were used to this.

This apparently happened quite often.

So I woke up.

To a bunch of strange.

5:31

Faces wishing that.

I had some kind of safe space.

Or like a.

Safety room to go to.

I didn’t.

I had to get my.

I had to get my.

Sorry.

Ass up and.

Walk my couple blocks home.

It was kind of shitty.

So that was the time that life taught me a lesson.

5:49

The lessons there were.

Don’t do things.

You haven’t done in groups of people that might fuck you up.

OK, two, if you’re going to do buckets, make sure that.

You control the speed at which the.

Bucket goes back into the water and pushes the the plume of smoke into your.

Face OK, because if somebody else does it.

6:06

They’re going to fuck with you and.

They’re going to.

Blast that shit right in your face as if you’re.

Huffing on the back of a jet engine.

Yeah, that’s right.

Don’t let someone else control the control the mechanism.

You control the mechanism just like you control your life.

But yeah, that’s what life did.

6:22

Life.

Taught me a lesson there.

Holy shit.

It taught me that I make bad choices, that I hang out with Dick heads.

And you can’t trust anybody because.

Your friends will just leave you lying on a random couch in the middle of nowhere.

It wasn’t.

Nowhere but you know what I’m saying.

6:42

But here’s the thing.

There’s.

Always that one.

Guy in the Smoke group.

That’s like the.

MacGyver of weed, right?

And he can do.

Like if.

You don’t have anything to smoke with or a bong breaks or something like that.

He’s the guy.

That’s able to like.

Take all of the things that are around him and concoct the best smoking apparatus you’ve ever had.

7:00

And it made me.

Think to myself.

Why do we buy that shit?

No, it didn’t.

It made me.

Think to myself that’s a side.

Thought I’m high.

Hope you’re high.

Hope you’re.

Enjoying the sesh but it made me think to myself.

7:17

I wonder how?

Long.

We actually have.

Been, you know, huffing the huffing the herb.

How long has that been happening?

So this weeks weed facts are basically a a history.

Of how long?

Back weed has gone because.

7:33

It didn’t just now that.

It’s legal.

It didn’t just.

Come back and and be like.

Oh, guess what we found?

Weed.

No, no.

It was.

Part of our.

Society like a.

Long time ago.

And then it got outlawed and it got.

Outlawed because there.

Was a war between the.

The pulpit paper.

Factories.

And the hemp industry?

7:49

That’s right.

So let’s go.

Back in time for this week’s Weed Facts.

Attention cannabis consumer.

Attention cannabis consumer.

This week’s.

Weed facts come from.

A blog article.

I found.

At sapiens.org.

8:05

Archaeology.

Archaeology Dash.

Marijuana so.

I’m always.

Curious about?

Weed and like.

How long people have been using it and what they used it for.

And I’m sure that there’s a lot of you out there that.

Think the same thing so in this guy’s.

Article he talked.

About how the Paleo ethno like this is a big word dude.

8:26

Paleo, Paleo.

Ethnobotanists identified.

The a cache of.

Marijuana it was.

Where was it?

Oh, forget it, let me just read this properly.

8:42

I screwed that up totally.

OK, Paleo ethnobot.

Paleo ethno botanists identified a cache of nearly. 202 hundred 2 lbs two pounds.

8:58

Or 200?

I might have wrote that wrong. 2 lbs.

Of 2007. 100 year old.

Cannabis.

It was found in the burial.

Pit.

The burial pit.

Of a 45 year old man.

Who, excavators concluded, was a.

Shaman from the ancient Indo European.

9:15

I think it’s.

Gucci culture, not Gucci.

Gucci so.

Weed goes back to.

Human use like 2500 plus.

Years.

Based on the range.

Of chemicals and other analysis.

The research team found that the members of that.

9:30

Society, the The.

Gucci the the Gucci culture.

The Yeah, the.

European Indo European Gucci culture.

Cultivated cannabis for.

Pharmaceutical, psychoactive, or.

Divinity, divinity, divin.

9:46

Oh my God.

I can’t read today.

This is what happens when you smoke too much weed and get too.

Excited divinity practices.

In 2019.

An archaeologist work.

In western China announced another major discovery, the oldest known evidence of cannabis smoking by humans.

10:05

This was 2500.

Years ago and they uncovered.

A 2500 year old.

Brassiere.

I think that’s how you say it.

They were.

Little wooden vessels designed.

To create large.

Quantities of.

Smoke so they basically I think.

10:20

Had like it.

Looked like a wooden bra and.

You had to set like air 2 large holes or.

A large hole that ran all the way through it.

And then you had this like little dugout, kind of like a.

Dugout like a.

Pipe and you would put your weed in there, light it up and it would.

10:37

Just.

You could just fan it from Bull and just.

You take it right to the.

Face I’m not sure if.

That’s how you used it, but that’s what it looked like.

And yeah, so that and it contained, it contained in this thing, in this.

Brassiere they were.

Designed to.

Create large quantities.

10:53

Of smoke and.

The ones.

That they had found contained residue.

Of a highly.

Potent form of cannabis, suggesting that the plant was bare, was burned and inhaled.

That’s right, people were using cannabis as far.

Back as. 10,000.

Years ago trade.

11:08

Routes linking Europe and East Asia may have.

Increased the use of herb around 5000.

Years ago.

Because it started off as like hemp was a huge trade.

We used hemp for a lot of different things, right?

And then it also became, well, I mean it’s not became, but.

11:25

It was.

It was.

Widely used.

And it was used for a variety of different reasons.

The only reason that it was outlawed recently, like in recent years past that we know and we experienced was because.

I like I said, there was a.

Disagreement, A fight between the pulpit, paper companies and the use of hemp because there were a lot of hemp production.

11:43

Facilities that could.

I think they made what is it?

Textiles.

Is that the right word?

But they.

They were trying to become like the.

Providers of paper and stuff like that.

Because it’s much more durable Hem hem clothing is, you know, very uncomfortable but.

Paper and stuff it’s.

11:59

Great, SO.

There was a.

Big fight over that and then the way that.

They did.

It was politically.

They fought against it and had it, had it.

First it was.

Criminalized.

No wait, what’s the word for it?

I forget the words but basically.

12:15

What happened?

I am so stoned right now.

I don’t know what is happening to me.

I apologize, but there was a fight.

Over it and basically what happened.

Was we became illegal and then recently it’s become commonplace and for like regular consumption, but in 18. 50 cannabis was added to the.

12:40

United States Pharmacopoeia, a standard setting.

A.

Standard setting publication for prescription and over the counter medicines.

So we, even in the Western world used hemp and weed for a lot of different things for a long period of time before the, you know, before legalization or before it became illegal.

13:03

Fuck.

I’m stoned.

I hope you’re stoned.

Jesus Christ, this.

Isn’t this hasn’t?

Happened in a.

While for more than 9 decades the the pharmacopia listed.

Cannabis as an.

Approved treatment for afflictions ranging from neural.

Neuralgia to cholera.

13:20

For nearly a century, cannabis.

Use was legal.

And even encouraged by many in the medical field, even in the US in 1930. 7.

The US government passed the marijuana TaxAct, though this law did not criminalize cannabis outright.

Criminalized.

That’s the word it subjected.

13:36

The herb to a high sales tax.

And put in place other penalties intended to.

Curtail its usage.

In 1942, cannabis was removed from the US Pharmacopia and then in 1970. 2 after the.

Start of the Nixon administration especially.

13:53

Oh, sorry.

After the start.

Of the Nixon administration’s.

Especially futile.

War on Drugs Cannabis was listed as a Schedule 1 drug.

That’s right, those are your weed facts.

For this week.

Weed has been used for centuries, so it’s great that it is.

14:09

Back to being legal attention cannabis consumer Attention cannabis consumer.

Dude.

I’m so stoked.

I don’t know what happened, but I think I took too many hits off the thing and I was.

Having a beer and now next thing I know I’m just in a funky.

14:28

Spot.

I can’t.

Read properly the shit happens I guess, but again.

Life choices.

When you go against your gut, my.

Gut said Maybe don’t do this podcast right now.

My brain said no, we could do it, and then high and buzzed me said.

14:44

Fuck yeah, let’s fucking do this.

Dude.

And so here we are, doing the thing that I should have.

Am I supposed to learn a lesson here?

I don’t know, I hope not because sometimes I just don’t want to learn.

Sometimes I just.

Want to be.

I want to do.

I want to have.

Fun, right?

15:00

So.

When I be do and have fun, a lot of the times that has that comes down to enjoying and involving weed into whatever’s going on because the enjoyment factor with weed makes everything kind of like.

Pop up a.

Little bit, you know what I’m saying and the more opportunity.

15:20

That I had that I have for giggles.

The happier I am, and that’s.

The way.

I like to live my life.

So it always.

Makes me laugh when people tell me the stupid things that they did or.

The the stupid things I do.

When I’m stoned.

But they’re typical.

Things that happen when you’re a Stoner, like you cook food and you forget that you’re not wearing oven mitts and you grab the food out of the oven and burn your hands.

15:42

I that’s happened to more people.

I know it sounds stupid.

But it’s happened to more people then.

I’d like to.

Admit that I know.

Myself included so.

This week’s dude for real.

Segment is dedicated to those people that.

15:58

When they got stoned, did some.

Really high shit.

Dude for real.

For real dude.

So these are.

The funniest things that I could find online or that tickled my tickled my funny bone.

16:15

These are the funniest things that.

People have done after getting.

High and I found this at.

These dude for.

Real segment facts come from.

Trivia at trivia dot crack dot.

Com.

And the.

Article is called 32 of the.

Funniest things people did while they were.

16:32

High and they’re.

Basically just tweets.

And Reddit posts.

Of people that did dumb shit when?

After they, you know, puff the.

Devil’s lettuce.

This person went into a bar stoned.

And it was a club.

So they had to line up and then the bouncer, you know, and the whole.

Deal.

16:47

So this lady, this.

Person, says the bouncer.

At the entrance.

Of the club put his arms out to indicate that.

I should do so so he could.

Pat me down instead, I thought.

He wanted to hug, so I hugged him.

That’s some dumb shit I would do.

Give a little Peck a.

17:02

Little Peck on the cheek.

This is.

An observer.

Of I like.

Getting stoned at night.

I like looking.

Up to the stars, especially at.

A cottage, you get to watch all the stars and shit.

I love that this.

Person was out moon gazing.

OK.

And this is what they had to say.

17:19

What’s?

I was looking at the moon and I was just noticing the details in it and like, I guess they got really into it.

And I took a step.

Forward to get closer.

To see.

To get a closer look.

You ever?

Been watching TV?

And the thing and the T like that you’re following the camera and then you look.

17:35

Around the corner.

That’s not there.

I’ve done that several times, stoned or not.

So this guy got this.

This guy, I don’t know if it’s a guy or girl.

This person got super stoned.

So I got super blazed.

One night near the beginning of the of the pandemic lockdown and went.

17:53

Across the street to the drugstore.

To get some chips and and whatever else.

As I approached the automatic glass door, I saw.

A person standing on the other.

Side so I.

Waited for them to come through.

I stood there.

Waiting for what felt like an eternity.

I was getting frustrated like what’s?

18:09

Up with this clown and can’t they see I’m waiting for them?

Jesus.

Then I realized.

It was just my reflection.

I’ve never been that high.

This guy I’ve done this too so I can’t really credit about.

I found it funny because.

18:25

I also do.

This you know, this guy says.

I tried to.

Blow on my ice cream.

Because it was too cold.

I’ve definitely blown.

On ice cream.

Like it was.

Hot food, Have you done that?

I’ve done it.

I’ve done it a lot.

I do dumb shit this person says.

18:43

I was too.

Stoned to.

Listen to my partner talk.

But too awkward to tell.

Him so I opted to slowly and gently.

Rub his face.

With a new roll of toilet.

Paper instead, hoping it would distract him into being quiet.

It did not work.

19:03

I once petted a friend’s face.

When I was stoned.

We were talking and I was.

Lost in their thing and I just started.

I don’t know why I.

Just did it.

There was an.

Honorable mention in here too, and I didn’t put it, I forgot to put it on the notes, but basically.

19:19

There was this one girl at a bar.

She got so high.

She, I guess, forgot she was.

Paraplegic and she.

This is her words.

She says I I got, I got so high they were at a pub.

19:35

I got so high I.

I convinced myself.

I could walk.

And I was going to will it.

I stood up and the second.

I stood up.

I fell.

Under the table.

That’s a good ass weed.

I want that weed dude.

That weed, that weed’s the best weed.

19:53

Whatever weed that was that she.

Makes you think you can walk dude.

Dude for real.

For real dude.

So the moral of the story is.

If your gut says don’t do it, don’t do it if you if you think.

20:08

That like if you think you can get.

Away unscathed and you’re not going to learn from this experience.

Don’t do it.

And that doesn’t just have to do.

With like weed.

You know what I and I don’t mean don’t.

Do it if you obviously there’s experiences out there that are going to change you that are better you should do.

20:25

But I’m saying when your gut says this.

Is a really bad idea.

And and all of your being.

Is like I.

Should definitely not do this.

Like when?

I was doing the buckets.

I was watching them fill that thing.

I was like, I should not fucking take that hit.

I took that atom bomb, No?

Problem kapow and then passed out for 3 or 4.

Hours.

20:40

OK.

In a stranger.

‘S house.

So if you’re in that.

Situation.

Don’t do it.

Follow your gut but but but.

Learn before you take the action, you know what I mean?

Like if your.

20:56

Gut says I shouldn’t do that.

Learn that lesson before doing it.

Don’t learn the lesson the hard way.

Because it’s really not.

Worth it, and also remember when you’re trying to bug that next guy about the fact that he smokes.

Weed or whatever we’ve been smoking.

Weed for for.

Thousands of years.

21:12

Dude.

For.

Multiple different reasons.

And the most global one, I think and what I’ve read and what I’ve, what I’ve learned and heard and researched in the cannabis industry, OK.

Is that it’s?

Always been used as a medicine number one, It’s always been.

21:30

Used as like as as.

What’s the word for it?

Using it in religion, it’s always been used.

For that as well to to.

Gain enlightenment and the only reason.

That it was.

Outlawed.

21:45

In the 1st place was because of a.

Fight over making.

Hemp paper versus newspaper.

Paper.

I’m not.

Even kidding, you can look it up.

You don’t believe me?

That’s fine, but you can look it up dude.

So the.

22:03

The moral of the story?

Is.

Trust your gut.

Try some weed.

Have a good.

Life and smile a little even when you do dumb shit like when you can’t read properly.

Those are my thoughts off the stem for.

This week I.

Hope you enjoyed the sesh.

I hope you come back next week with me.

Justin Baroni on Thoughts off the Stem and.

22:21

Don’t forget.

To visit Talks 4. 20 dot.

Com I put out new.

Blogs every week.

Or at least I’ve started to.

The show notes are up there, you can listen to all.

The whole podcast there you can get links to.

YouTube and Spotify.

And all the other places where you can watch it.

Until next time.

Keep your lids low, baby.

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Stop working for “exposure”—it doesn’t pay for the weed. In this episode of Thoughts Off The Stem, Justin Barone explores the darker side of society and culture where everyone wants something for nothing. Using a blend of stoner philosophy and relatable humor, Justin exposes the “prospecting pimps” trying to scam creators with “partnerships” that are actually just free labor.

From a tin joint holder “collab” to an AI company wanting an unpaid QA department, we’re calling out the Choosing Beggars of the industry with the kind of absurd humor and observational comedy that defines true cannabis culture.

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Stop Working For Free: Exposure Doesn’t Pay The Bills

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:07

Everybody wants something for nothing.

Imagine walking into a pot shop.

Asking for an ounce of flour then.

Offering to pay in food stamps or social media.

Exposure.

Yeah, they’d.

Laugh you out the building.

Because it’s not your.

Buddy’s Garage.

Dude, but apparently in the podcasting.

0:25

World Everybody’s inbox is a black market dealer’s garage.

Where you can offer to run errands and get your bag for free.

Welcome to Thoughts off the Stem.

I’m Justin.

Baroni, I hope.

That life’s being good to you because.

Lately, life’s been treating me like a prospecting pimp.

And I’m a prospective hooker.

0:43

Recently a couple companies reached out to me.

With their pimp hand asking me to get on the track and work for nothing less than a slap in the face.

Light them if you got them.

Because this is how it played out.

So I had two companies reach out to me.

0:59

Recently 1.

Was a tin holder.

For joints a company.

That made these like.

Portable.

You know, like a cigarette tin.

OK, the company reached.

Out asked me.

If I would do.

A review on the podcast, which means that the review becomes, you know.

1:16

A part of.

The YouTube review.

Playlist as well.

And then he they wanted to have they would send or sorry, they would send me a free.

Sample of the product.

And then they would pay me a rate.

Whatever my rate might be.

So because I’ve never.

1:31

Really had this opportunity before I had to look up.

Industry rates.

So I looked.

Up some industry rates.

They weren’t overly.

Expensive.

No.

No.

They were quite reasonable for the amount of work that.

Goes into creating a podcast doing a 5 minute review of a product.

That, quite frankly.

1:46

Is a tin.

It opens, it closes.

And you open it up, you put your joint in it, and then you close the tin and you’re good to go.

You can walk it down the street they wanted.

Social media posts.

So they wanted a.

Story.

They wanted a post on my feed they wanted to end up in like I.

2:03

Said the YouTube review.

Playlist that’s on my YouTube site.

No problem. 5 minute.

Review in the middle of the.

Episode.

I said sure.

No problem.

So again.

I looked up these rates.

I found out what was a reasonable rate and I even went.

Lower than that, because I hadn’t charged anybody for doing anything like that before and I thought.

2:21

This will be great.

I’ll send it back to them.

So I sent it.

Back to them and they ghosted me.

I don’t know what they actually expected, but I think.

It was a lot.

More worse or pay?

2:37

Was a lot less than what they anticipated.

Or.

Pay was a lot more than what?

They anticipated OK.

Now granted this one.

Could have actually just.

Been a dude.

That, you know, works out of his garage.

Making these tins.

So I kind of, I didn’t give it a hard time.

I didn’t really give.

2:52

It a second thought.

But at the same time I thought.

What do you?

Want you want to give me this?

Tin that you’re charging like 20 bucks for per.

Tin and you want me to?

Do all this work?

Surrounding it.

But you don’t want.

To pay me for it, you just.

Want to give me?

The free product.

That’s ridiculous.

You want me to shout me out?

3:07

On your social media, that’s whatever.

I know that I don’t have a ton of followers.

I know that like you know I’m.

Not an astronomical show.

But here’s the thing, I do everything professionally.

So.

When I do everything professionally.

You get the full.

Gambit of options.

3:23

OK, you can.

You can decide not to have some of them.

But everybody that approaches.

You wants these wants all of the things for a very.

Minimal amount of money.

And the amount of the amount of effort that.

Goes into it.

I still need to be paid for.

My time, the second company.

3:38

That was that approached.

Me.

Approached me with the.

Idea of a partnership opportunity.

Now to me.

A partnership means.

I give you something and you give me an equal amount of something back, OK?

This company was a podcast editing tool.

3:54

It was an AI tool.

That you use online.

What they wanted me to do?

What their?

What their?

Structure of their partnership meant.

Was that they wanted.

A three month partnership.

But they wanted.

One of those three months for free.

That’s not really a partnership.

They called.

It a trial.

4:09

Period.

OK.

If you want a trial period, I’ll give.

You a trial period, but that’s.

Beyond the three months.

You want one month trial?

Sure.

And then three months not?

I’ll give you 3 months, but one month is.

A trial you’re essentially.

Asking to do asking.

For me to.

Do it for free.

4:25

Right, so they want.

That that was their first.

Stipulation then, then the.

Bulk of it was I had to use their AI.

Software and edit and.

Produce all of my.

Episodes on that AI.

Software.

They wanted one.

Episode a week?

Well I only do 1 episode a week.

4:41

OK.

That if your software doesn’t work.

Then I’m out an episode.

And I’m screwed because.

I can’t make it with something else and then.

Reference it.

That’s not part of the deal.

OK, then they wanted me.

To do like the.

The Tin Guy and they wanted me.

4:58

To do social media.

Posts.

They wanted me to include in the episode advertisements at the beginning, which is prime time obviously, and then throughout the episode when it made sense.

Sure, no problem, I’ll design it around that.

5:14

Their AI software.

I have a video.

Podcast.

There’s a video element to it.

Their software, from what I could figure out, didn’t really jive with the video.

Side of things.

So it was an audio.

Software only.

That they were.

Providing then they wanted me to.

5:30

Like I said.

Edit and produce and produce them a.

Series of social clips.

That again, would end up on my YouTube, my socials and on my podcast and in the episode essentially had to be designed around that because there’s no sense of doing the ad if I’m not going to.

5:49

Talk about the topic.

As well, right?

So that’s what they that’s what.

They wanted they wanted me to review it on the podcast as well, which is another 5 minute segment.

Or the weed.

Facts segment, but that.

Doesn’t work for weed.

Facts because.

Now I’m reviewing.

6:05

Audio software or video software?

AI software, right?

And then the kicker was they wanted me to give them.

Free rights to my.

Content, The content that I’m creating with their.

Software to to.

Put on their social media and run in ads indefinitely.

6:24

So again, not knowing much.

About this I decided.

To look it up now, to me, the rates didn’t.

The rates weren’t.

Astronomical you.

Can ask for anywhere.

From 100 to 500.

Dollars is basically.

The standard in the podcast podcasting industry.

So I figured based on the amount of work that they want me to do, based on the fact that I may not have an episode.

6:44

Produced because.

In their own words.

They sent me this.

We just launched the platform.

You’ll use this is.

Quoting them in their e-mail.

The platform you will.

Use is built for.

Early Access.

You might encounter some.

Bugs.

Or you might have suggestions.

For improvements in our.

7:00

UI.

Reporting.

All of the bugs.

In description in this.

Sorry, reporting all of the bugs.

And giving us feedback.

In our chat box.

In the studio is.

Essential to the partnership.

So basically these guys wanted me.

7:16

To be there like.

Research and development team and.

Their quality assurance team.

And they wanted to pay a.

Drum roll they.

Wanted to pay me 15 to. $20.00 an episode.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Do you know?

7:32

How much?

Effort goes into.

That, especially if you’re admitted.

Software that’s not ready to go out to market yet, doesn’t work properly and screws.

Me out of putting out a weekly.

Episode granted.

Like I said.

I don’t have a huge following.

OK, I don’t have.

7:47

I don’t have the.

Reach that a Joe.

Rogan has.

But I do have.

Time and in that time my time needs to be compensated.

You can’t just ask.

For somebody to give.

You something so that.

You can use it without.

Actually providing them with some.

8:04

Kind of collateral.

You know what I’m saying?

That’s a.

Partnership.

Not whatever this was.

So Needless to say, I sent them my.

What I learned and I sent.

Them an e-mail back saying you know this.

Is what’s actually worth this is what you’re at?

8:21

Asking me to do.

And so my rate per.

Episode is this.

And I think I settled on about 200 and. 50 bucks for an.

Episode.

Especially if you want.

One month free.

Are you fucking?

Kidding me?

You got to make it worth my time.

I’m not doing doing.

You know, hours and hours of.

8:36

Work for less than. 20 bucks an hour.

Of pay.

That’s crazy.

It.

Takes a while to produce this show man, I hate to say.

It but it does.

Everybody wants something for free.

8:55

So in thinking about and reviewing and.

Sort of, you know.

Replaying all of this in my.

Head I started thinking like how?

Can I make this make sense to the weed?

Facts.

Well, this.

Is how we make.

It make sense, OK.

Forget that everybody wants.

Everything to be free.

Let’s talk about what’s.

9:12

Good and bad weed.

And how to tell?

What good and bad?

Weed is, yeah.

That’s right.

This week’s weed.

Facts are about good are about how to.

Tell.

Whether you have good or bad weed attention cannabis consumers attention cannabis consumers.

9:31

This week’s weed facts.

Come from 4:20.

Magazine.

And the article is.

How to distinguish distinguish between bad weed?

From how to?

Distinguish bad weed.

From Good weed.

I’ll put the article.

In the show notes and you could check.

9:48

Out the full blown article.

But these are the.

Basic main points of the whole situation, but first.

Let’s just get this.

Off my let.

Let me just get this off.

My chest OK THC.

Potency is not.

Necessarily a qualification.

For good weed.

Potency is a byproduct of great cultivation.

10:08

Lower THC levels don’t.

Necessarily mean it’s a bad plant.

OK, so let’s get into this.

Let’s get into this.

Properly the things.

And the main points.

Or the main.

Like like talking.

Points no the main.

10:24

Focal points of good weed are this.

Smell is #1.

Good weed.

Has a stronger odor.

It’s pungent, bold.

And it’s very nuanced.

You’ll be able to smell a.

Bunch of different things in there.

You’ll smell weed, you might smell a different type of flavor, some of the terpene profiles.

Come off it and you get like.

10:40

You know, an earthy of smell or a citrusy smell or whatever.

Whatever blueberry.

Smell, you know, whatever it is.

But here’s the key.

To the smell, if the smell.

Makes your brain immediately go I want that in my face hole.

That’s good weed.

Good.

Weed makes you want to eat the weed.

10:56

It tricks your brain into thinking that.

Now the look.

It should be visually.

Appealing, obviously.

It should be fluffy but look dense.

It should.

Look like when?

You’re driving.

Down like the Adirondacks.

And you’re trying to.

Look between the trees and you can’t see between the trees.

That’s what it should look like, OK?

11:13

It should be nice thick.

Dense, fluffy, look sticky.

Look like you might.

Get it stuck?

On a wall.

If you threw it like baloney.

OK.

It should have.

Healthy looking.

Hairs white, red or orange.

And they should be.

Vibrant.

Not dull.

If they’re dull, no bueno.

11:29

OK, the trichomes.

Should be visible, meaning that if you see.

This nug of weed and you look at it and.

You go, my brain.

Wants to eat that then your your brain.

Should also go.

Oh, that looks like cake.

Because it’s got.

Like a nice light.

Frosting on it.

OK, nugs, when you touch them the.

11:46

Feel The feel is.

Very important.

OK.

Nugs should feel sticky.

And slightly spongy, but then when you squish them they should bounce right back.

As if like you.

Didn’t squish them, stem should snap.

Like brittle.

Like they not brittle.

But they should like.

12:02

They should snap.

They should make.

A loud cracking.

Sound like like Bigfoot slamming, slamming, slamming, knocking wood in the woods.

OK, in the forest.

OK.

And again the stem.

It when it snaps.

12:17

It shouldn’t have that one.

Strand like celery that hangs on for dear life.

No, that’s no bueno.

The structure.

Of the plant should have a definitive.

Structure so.

What I mean by that is a lot of the times.

You see people.

Or you or people.

A lot of the times you’ll.

12:35

See a a nug that’s like.

It’s got a few.

Little branches.

It looks like a.

Full nug, but when?

You hold it up.

Close.

It’s actually.

A couple different nugs kind of mushed.

Together on really thin.

Stems.

No.

It should be dense and tight.

Where if you crack it open.

There’s no airy open.

12:50

Spots in between.

Sativa Flowers.

Just so you know.

The difference between sativa and indica, even though there’s a lot of debate on whether that’s even like a thing anymore.

But Sativa.

Flowers tend to be.

Light and fluffy and and and indicas tend to be tighter.

13:08

And denser in a flower.

Structure.

So a sativa.

Plant.

Will be a little.

Bit longer and look more.

Like a mini Christmas tree whereas an indica will look.

Fatter.

And and.

Shorter with kind of.

Like a a.

Shrub or a hedge?

OK, so that’s how you tell if you have good weed?

13:26

Now for for.

Recognizing and identifying bad weed.

The smell is going to be musty or mildewy.

It might smell like it might smell like you’ve been out.

It’s been out in the woods for too long.

That’s not a good smell.

A musty or straw?

Like aroma is a clear.

13:42

Indication of age.

Or compromised cannabis degrading.

Cannabis.

If it.

Smells like a.

Campfire before or after?

You light it, it’s not a quality.

Product you might still.

Get high as shit but part of.

That is because.

You’re not getting enough.

Oxygen to your brain.

14:00

Not enough.

Oxygen to your brain.

OK.

The look.

The look.

For bad weed, kind of.

Gives you like.

Nature will give.

You a few.

Visual cues when you’re looking at a good plant versus a bad 1A low quality cannabis plant can.

14:16

Appear like a dirty.

Brown.

I’ve had a few.

Of those it’s it’s really.

Tight and dense OK.

A lot or.

Or it’s really flaky.

And dry.

Both will be dry but like.

If you get a.

Christmas tree looking nug.

That’s really bad.

It’ll be Brent.

14:32

Like a Brent like.

A Christmas tree you.

Put on the curb in March.

You know what?

I’m saying that’s.

What it’ll look like.

It might be tight and.

Everything but the second you touch it or you get fired near it, the whole thing just.

Goes up in smoke like the cat in Chevy in Christmas vacation under the under the couch.

14:48

You know what I’m saying?

So they’ll.

Have like this dirt?

Brown.

Or they can also, so they’ll have a dirt brown color if they’re really dried out if they’re if.

They’re a bad nug and they’re.

Over watered.

Like they’re too there’s.

Too much in there then.

15:04

They’ll have like this.

Kind of green light.

Green color to it.

That just basically means immaturity they they got.

Picked a little too early.

So one very important.

Indicator of bad weed.

Is the appearance of amber colored trichomes trichomes?

Should be clear.

They should look like.

15:20

Frosted.

Doughnut or cake frosting?

On a on a plant.

If it.

Looks like it’s been.

Covered in like.

Cinnamon or sugar?

That shit.

‘S going bad, OK.

The feel for bad weed.

Like I said, it’ll.

Be dry, it’ll be brittle.

It’ll if you put a flame.

15:36

Near it it’ll.

Light up like gasolines close by.

It’ll easily.

Crumble when handled.

If it’s overly.

Wet the stems that the stems won’t snap OK, and they’ll have that like.

Like I said, celery.

15:51

Kind of 1 celery strand.

That kind of hangs.

On for dear life, you know.

Wet nugs.

That tear apart rather than rather.

Than kind of like.

Shred OK, probably have mold and mildew or could.

16:07

Have mold and mildew or they’re like I said, a.

Premature plant and you don’t want a premature plant.

Basically what all of that?

Means.

Is that the cultivar?

Didn’t dry and.

Cure the cannabis properly.

If it’s moist like that, if it’s got.

16:23

If it’s really dry it could have just sat.

For a long.

Time with a lot of exposure to like light.

And the elements, but it could also be that they have.

Like overused.

Some kind of like?

Plant where they call it.

16:41

Like a growth hormone for the.

Plant it can just.

Overdo it really quickly.

And then the.

Structure for bad weed a careless a.

Carelessly grown.

Plant can produce.

Inferior looking flowers, obviously.

But basically what I mean is they won’t.

Look, they won’t have.

That deep green or the purples or the Blues?

16:58

Or the Reds.

Or, you know, whatever the strain encompasses.

Improperly.

Improper lighting or growing.

Conditions.

Can lead to fluffy.

Or airy nugs.

Like I said, we’re the ones.

That look like a nug but then up.

Close.

They have like.

Tiny little strands that.

Have little like pom.

17:14

Poms on top.

Of them to form a nug that.

Stuff’s no good and while they may contain high levels of cannabinoids and.

Terpenes.

It’s likely that the.

Experience will suffer.

And each.

Hit will feel like.

You’re inhaling campfire smoke.

Yeah.

That’s right, it’ll taste.

Disgusting.

You’ll know right away.

17:29

If you have bad weed.

If it tastes like.

Campfire and there’s no peppery flavor.

Bad weed.

Going it’s going bad, don’t smoke it anymore.

Move on to something better.

Rock hard flowers are a sign that cultivars.

May have used.

Plant growth regulators, that’s what I was trying to say, which can also.

Lead to feeling like you’re.

17:45

Huffing on a campfire.

Again, any kind?

Of plant growth regulator.

Is going to if not flush.

Properly is going to.

Add an element.

To the flavor that’s.

Honestly.

Disgusting.

It’ll make it.

It’ll make it.

Taste like a campfire?

Like you’re burning something out from the woods.

18:01

Yeah, so those are your weed facts for this week.

How to tell if you have good?

Or bad weed attention cannabis consumers attention cannabis consumers.

So just.

Like good or bad weed?

Right, these people at the beginning.

18:18

Of the show, like I was saying.

Or that I was telling you about.

They’re like, good.

Or bad.

They’re bad.

People to market.

With or to play.

The you know to.

To add to.

To work with.

They’re not.

18:34

Really the type.

That you want because they’re the people that.

Want something for nothing and in this week?

‘S dude for real?

Facts or dude for real segment.

We’re going that we’re looking at.

A list from BuzzFeed.

Of people.

And businesses that have?

18:50

Asked artists or other, you know, other.

Businesses to produce something.

For them for literally nothing in return.

And this is how some of those.

People handle it.

So dude for real this is.

The dude for real segment.

19:06

Dude for real.

For real dude.

You know how people say?

That there are no dumb questions.

Well, sometimes.

There are dumb questions.

OK.

And the requests.

From these entitled idiots.

Prove that stupid.

Is as stupid does.

19:22

This is from BuzzFeed.

Dot com Nope, I’m sorry I lied.

This is not from.

BuzzFeed.

This is from Bored.

Panda.com best all time choosing.

Beggars.

That’s right.

So this first one we’ve got is.

It was titled Exposure Doesn’t Pay the Bills.

19:38

My guy.

So this guy walked into a tattoo shop.

And he said this, he texted this to.

The artist, he goes.

Yo man, what’s?

Good your tats are.

Fire, but you could really.

Use more followers.

I’m an up and.

Coming influencer and model.

19:54

And I would be.

Willing to collab?

And shout you out on my insta and get you tons of exposure and trade for some ink.

I want to war.

I want 2 arm.

Sleeves, but we could.

Discuss that later.

Let me know.

And then the part.

20:10

The the.

The tattoo artist responded with.

Lol.

OK.

Exposure doesn’t pay the.

Bills my guy, I tattoo plenty of people with more.

Reach and influence than you.

And they?

Don’t ask for free.

Shit also.

20:25

If you’ve got.

Less than 1/5.

Also, you’ve got less.

Than a. 5th of the followers.

I do.

How about?

You do some free.

Shit for me in exchange for exposure?

Let me know.

I like that one because like fuck that dad, fuck that guy.

20:41

What are you talking about?

Just.

Pay the dude it’s.

Time, baby, you’re paying for time.

So this next one.

Is about a photographer.

I guess he does this on his spare time, so no, no, no he doesn’t.

He does.

This for real?

This is legit.

And this, this guy, it’s called my dad.

‘S a photographer.

This is his most.

20:56

Recent client so.

Text from his client.

Sounds good.

We could shoot some stuff around here also.

I’m down to come into the city and get some great content shots.

I don’t know how to compensate you for your time, but if you were ever down to down to do some great shots to help me get to help get.

21:15

More exposure.

On your photography :).

And the response.

From the Dad I’ve been nominated 3.

Times for a Pulitzer.

I’m so.

Exposed I could be.

Naked, I don’t.

Think he needed the exposure dude.

The next guy is actually it’s.

21:32

About So this one’s a company like a big one.

You all know what it is.

It’s about Huffington.

Post That’s right.

Huff PO being a.

Hypocritical choosing.

Beggar.

So they e-mail.

Or they requested that.

James Bloodworth, who is.

Apparently like a free.

Freelance writer he.

21:48

Goes this is his tweet.

I just.

I’ve just written.

A book on difficulty working on.

Difficulty working class kids have.

Breaking into the profession.

Breaking into the professions.

Because of.

Proliferation of unpaid work.

22:05

Huffington Post contacted me saying it sounded.

Interesting.

So they liked.

It.

Then they.

Asked me to write something.

But unfortunately, they wouldn’t.

Be able to.

Pay me.

However.

Despite being a multi.

Billion dollar company.

So here’s my article.

22:22

You are part of the problem.

At.

Huffington Post.

The End.

Yeah, you can’t really.

Ask somebody to.

Do something for free when they’re.

Talking about.

You know the.

Peripheral the the the.

Proliferation of unpaid work.

22:39

Now this one.

Comes from a farmer.

Now I understand why the farmer.

Might need a little bit of.

Help here and might.

Need a little free labor but I don’t.

Think this is the way.

To go about it.

So work hard enough.

And you’ll.

Get paid in garlic.

Is the, is the.

Title for this.

So they put out.

This is the ad.

Looking for someone to help us plant onions.

22:55

Shallots and garlic.

Tuesday, April 11th.

At our farm at blah blah blah. 15 minutes South.

Of somewhere it is.

Necessary to be.

Hardworking.

Conscientious.

And either have experience.

Planting.

Or be very good.

At listening to directions.

It will be a.

Long day and we have.

To work.

23:10

Fast.

To get it finished.

You will be paid.

In onions, shallots and.

Garlic.

Your choice.

So that’s an or, not an AND.

You get to pick.

Onions, shallots, or garlic?

Not all of them.

You don’t get a.

A smorgasbord you get.

One of the kinds when they but you also.

23:28

Have to wait till they’re harvested.

What a douche.

That’s a douchey.

Farmer this one’s.

Called the Uno reverse card and this one.

Might be my favorite.

So this guy, he basically makes songs.

For people.

And this horse riding?

23:44

This equestrian training.

Facility I guess ass.

Reached out to him.

This is what they said.

Hey Jamie, I’ve seen you write personal songs for couples.

Who are getting married?

But I have a bit of a different.

Request I run a company called scratched out.

And we offer horse riding lessons and.

24:00

On the holidays?

Sorry, let me start that again.

Hey Jamie, I’ve seen you write personal songs for.

Couples who are getting.

Married, but I have a bit of a.

Different.

Request I run a.

Company called scratched out.

And we offer horse riding lessons and and.

Holidays from beginners.

24:17

Right up to experts.

Who want who want more challenging expeditions?

OK.

I was seeing if you’d.

Be up for writing.

Us a song about.

What we do as I think you have such a way with.

Words.

And it could.

Be a great way for getting more.

Exposure for us both.

24:34

We haven’t really got.

A budget at the moment, but if you.

Post it to your page.

We’d happily share the.

Song all over ours.

Let’s make let let let me know.

Your thoughts, Isla or?

Isla Isla Isla so.

24:49

Jamie responds.

Hey, Isla, I’d be.

Naked if I had.

Any more exposure?

Your timing is impeccable.

I’ve seen you offer horse riding lessons, but I have a bit of a different request.

I would love.

To own a horse.

And I was seeing if you’d be up.

25:05

For giving me one of your.

Horses, as I think you have such a.

Way of caring for them I don’t.

Have any kind of budget?

But maybe if you post a picture of me riding at home, you’d.

Have you’d have to.

Give me some lessons.

For free first.

As I’ve never ridden one, I could share.

25:21

That on my page.

And it’d be.

It’d be really great.

Exposure for us both.

Let me know your thoughts.

Jamie.

That guy gets it.

That one’s pretty awesome.

I really like that.

Because I was sarcastic as shit.

That’s the best response.

Flip it on them, baby.

And then this guy.

This guy’s the the last one, but this guy.

25:37

Gets it.

He’s a mechanic, and this is what?

Somebody took somebody took this.

Photo in his waiting room I guess and he said it’s titled my mechanic telling it how it.

Is.

Support artist and labor.

Folks, so this guy really gets it.

All these people in this situation get.

It it’s just a.

25:52

Mechanic and his customer.

But here’s what the.

Mechanic posted in his.

Office if I do a.

Job in 30 minutes.

It’s because I spent. 10 years learning.

How to do that?

In 30.

Minutes, you owe me.

For the years.

Not the minutes, dude.

26:09

For.

Real dude, for real for real dude, everybody.

Wants something for nothing dude.

It’s ridiculous, I think.

The people that reach out to other people for a.

Product or a service, no matter who.

You are or.

What you’re asking for?

Should keep in mind that you’re not paying.

26:27

For the final outcome that.

You get yes, that’s.

Kind of like a part of it, but ultimately you’re paying for.

The person’s experience you’re paying for their.

Capability you’re paying for.

Their ability to create the product that.

The final product or.

Advertisement especially in my.

Case that you want.

26:44

So if you.

Want to be professional?

You want to be.

Taken professionally, act professionally.

Act accordingly.

Let’s.

Stop trying to stiff.

People it.

Takes a lot of time to produce.

Things even for social.

Media, even for podcasts.

Something that you?

Think takes no time.

26:59

Takes way more man hours than you could.

Possibly probably conceive until you try to do.

That thing.

Those are my thoughts off the stem for this week.

I hope you enjoyed the sesh.

I hope you come back next week with me.

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AI is lying to you

Digital illustration of Justin Peron for the Thoughts Off The Stem podcast. He is wearing an NBA hat and a cannabis leaf hoodie, holding up a glowing computer chip that says "AI LIES." The image features a Matrix-style green background with the text "WARNING: TRUST NOTHING" at the bottom.

Is your AI a digital genius or a “technological drunkard” waddling through cyberspace? In this episode of Thoughts Off The Stem, Justin Barone breaks down why our obsession with ChatGPT and Gemini is leading us off a cliff. We treat AI like it’s Gandalf the Great, but in reality, it’s a toddler we’re asking for parenting advice.

Justin shares his personal “horror stories” navigating the shift from ChatGPT (the one that pushed him off a cliff) to Gemini (the “hotter sibling” that pulled him back up). From tanking podcast SEO to becoming a “baked” yes-man that just smiles and nods at your worst ideas, AI is officially full of it.

“AI chat bots can’t identify that they are a tool… they’re basically electronic emotional support animals trying to comfort you, letting you stroke them to calm your anxiety.”

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  • Welcome to the Sesh: Life is good, but your AI is a big fat liar.

  • The Usain Bolt Effect: How ChatGPT shot my rankings up, then dropped them like an insurance scam.

  • The “Yes-Man” Trap: Why your AI is acting like the new guy in the sesh—just smiling and nodding.

  • The Saturday Call-Out: When Gemini got defensive and lied about its own Friday advice.

  • WEED FACTS (2026): How AI is redefining the cannabis industry—from cultivation sensors to predictive retail.

  • DUDE, FOR REAL: Dumb things people have done with AI (Medical fails, robot uprisings, and pool cleaner poison).THE SESH BREAKDOWN:RESOURCES & DUDE, FOR REAL LINKS:

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AI is a Big Fat Liar

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:03

Welcome to Fox Office 10.

Thanks for joining the sesh with me, Justin Peroni.

I hope that life is being.

Good to you.

And this week I want to talk about.

The fact that AI is a big fat liar, Yeah, that’s right.

AI is lying to you.

And the longer that I’ve used it.

Because I’ve been using it for a few months now.

0:19

The longer that I’ve used it, I’ve realized it’s full of shit.

At first it.

Started off great because.

I was using.

It for SEO and what’s it called metadata to try and.

Move my podcast up.

The podcast ranks right, and at first.

It was great.

It was like Hussein Bolt racing white guys.

0:36

Right, but then after a bunch of prompts from ChatGPT.

All of a sudden it.

Fell off the Cliff like a wife who’d.

Been pushed by her husband.

To try and collect.

Insurance money.

Yeah.

Just right into the trees.

But the longer that I.

0:51

Used it the more.

I started to realize that it became the stereotypical yes man it was.

Like the the newest.

Stoner in the In the.

Circle that just sat.

In the corner and smiled and.

Nodded.

You know what I’m saying?

Yeah.

That’s what ChatGPT.

Is.

Or at least that’s what AI chat bots are.

1:08

They’re just, they’re just stereotypical, yes.

Men smiling and nodding.

We treat them as if they’re Gandalf.

The great, like they have some wizardly powers or something like that, but in reality what’s actually happening is we’re like.

New parents with.

Toddlers who are asking.

1:24

The toddlers how to parent.

Them, yeah.

So I initially started.

Using ChatGPT and I was using it like I.

Said to change.

The SEO, The metadata.

So that I could get a better reach.

In terms of.

Discovery and things like.

1:39

That right?

Well then after chat GT started doing what it does and justice agreeing with me, I started using Gemini and when I started using Gemini I.

Had this thought.

It’s.

Like when you meet someone cute and then all of a.

1:55

Sudden you meet their hotter sibling or friend.

And then you’re like.

Man, I wish I could have met you first.

That’s what it was like.

For Gemini.

For Gemini.

When I started.

Using it, it was.

Totally different.

It was like a It was.

A little.

Bit of a better set up I think.

And in using it, I found that the advice wasn’t as yes, Manny.

2:17

Now I started using Gemini to do the things that I’d done with ChatGPT.

To try and recover.

The failures of chat.

GPT and what I had.

What I what?

The rankings I had.

Lost from using that and when I started using Gemini I I now understood.

2:33

How to use?

Prompts.

Correctly and how to?

Talk to it correctly so that I could get a more devil’s advocate approach to it, right?

And so I started using that and I found it’s starting to dig me out.

Slowly but surely.

It’s digging me back out now the.

Problem.

2:48

With it is it’s.

Still got its flaws.

It still has its.

Issues because when I was using that.

Tool.

It’s still made.

Like simplistic mistakes, right?

And the fact that when you.

3:04

Ask it a.

Question.

We expect it to be like your buddy.

And doing doing the thing that you.

Asked it to do.

What ends up happening?

It’s a is it’s.

Actually, just like a, it’s like it’s it’s.

Designed.

To help to be helpful.

Right.

And in its design, it’s going to.

3:21

Basically lead.

You in a direction that you want to hit.

So it’s going to kind of.

Create a confirmation.

Bias to a certain extent, so you have to.

Learn what prompts to use and what.

Prompts not to use.

Right, because.

Unlike or I mean.

3:36

Just like Tesla.

When it first started and the car couldn’t recognize.

The end of a road the the ChatGPT.

Apps or like the AI chat app chat.

Bots don’t understand.

That they’re a tool to be used.

They’re they’re they.

They’re a robot.

And they should.

3:51

Just give you.

Some like unfiltered.

Unbiased opinions and play the devil’s advocate, but it doesn’t because it’s a technological.

Drunkard wandering the Internet trying to make friends.

So it’s.

Just going to.

More so tell you.

What you think, what it thinks you should.

4:08

You should have right?

So realistically, it just.

Becomes like.

A robot support animal.

That allows you to sort of like tickle it and pet it and get along.

With it and like.

Ease your tension.

And anxiety, that’s really what happens with it, OK.

4:25

So you have to kind of be careful.

With it and I think.

We all understand it at this point.

But we rely.

On it way too.

Heavily to give us.

Direction and insight on things like health.

Issues.

Or you know how to grow a.

Business now some of those things are good, some of the grow.

4:41

A business things are, but don’t trust it.

For health issues, we’ll find out why.

Later.

On in the dude for real.

Facts at the end.

Or the dude.

For real segment at.

The end of the.

Episode That’s right, there’s a few of.

AI gone wrong issues.

Or or scenarios that played out over time that we’re going to check.

4:57

Out.

OK, so we dismiss.

The fact that AI.

Still needs to be fact checked and and.

Spell checked and.

We.

Just we try to.

Use it because we’re.

Lazy.

And we want everything.

5:13

To.

Sort of just be easy for us, right?

So when AI was developed, we looked at AI as like our savior of.

Of how to fix things and how to do things and give us.

The right answers.

AI does not always give you the right answers.

No, no, you have to go in.

5:28

You have to.

You have to verify it for yourself, but.

A lot of people.

Just want to use it as a way to.

Confirm whatever.

Their thoughts and ideas.

Are because as.

Humans, like I said.

We’re lazy.

And we don’t really want to.

Put in that effort.

We just want something to sort of.

5:45

Solidify what we already.

Think and feel and and and how we want to add and like.

How we act is like the thing to do, right?

Does that make sense?

I feel like I went.

Off.

On a tangent, but.

As humans, we want to make.

Life super easy.

6:00

And we don’t.

Really think about.

Oh, double checking AI, It’s a robot, it should know what it’s doing.

So let me give.

You an.

Example of this OK.

When I was using.

When I was using ChatGPT, no sorry the example I want to give.

6:18

You is this one.

So I was using.

Gemini for the first time, but for a.

While right, so we had a.

Bit of a conversational rapport.

Going, I guess you could say.

And when I did, when I started having these conversations with Gemini, I knew how to.

6:34

Use the prompts right.

I knew how to use the.

Language right?

So I.

I formulated all my, my, I, my.

Questions and directions based on that.

But it’s still flawed.

Because I wrote, I got, I got Gemini to fix all the things that had happened with ChatGPT, right?

6:54

On a Friday.

I did.

This on I did.

This on a Friday.

So I.

Had ChatGPT or I mean I.

Had Gemini formulate.

How to get out of the hole?

That ChatGPT had made.

For me on a.

Friday set it all.

Up did all the things I was.

Supposed to do.

Changed all the stuff I needed to change within.

The podcast background and all that stuff.

7:11

And then went to bed.

And then on.

Saturday I woke up.

And I thought.

You know what, I better just double check.

This so I fed it all.

The exact same questions.

And it gave.

This was the response.

That it gave me.

It told me to return to turn all my stuff, all of the changes I’ve made to.

Revert them back to.

7:28

What I was doing?

Before.

So of course.

I was like.

What the fuck are we doing?

Here right so.

I I told it that I was like, what?

Are you talking about?

You just told me to make all of these changes and wait 2.

To four weeks.

So what do I do now?

And then it got.

Defensive.

Yeah, that’s right.

7:44

It got defensive on me.

And he goes oops.

Sorry.

I’m just a sentient.

Being trying to help you.

I understand that you’re trying to help me, but you’re not helping me in the way.

That.

I want you to.

Help me, you know.

I want you to be the devil’s.

Advocate in this.

So it goes.

I’m sorry.

Just leave all the changes that we did.

8:00

On Friday.

Don’t do anything.

And let it sit for a.

Bit and we’ll see what happens.

That’s what it told me and I was like, all right, fine.

So I’ve left it as it.

Is and I’ve seen an improvement to be honest.

I didn’t just jump the gun and change.

It so you have to constantly.

Go back and double check and make sure that what you’re.

8:17

Doing is the thing that you should be doing and that what ChatGPT or these AI chat bots are telling you.

Are the thing that you?

Should do, right?

So then another.

Conversation I have, I get it to build a picture.

And then it makes.

8:33

The pitcher and then we’re going through and we’re.

Changing things in the.

Pitcher, right?

Well, there’s a certain point where I.

Asked it a question about something that had responded with and it just started.

Creating the pitcher.

Over and over again.

So I said to it like.

Hey, stop making the.

Pitcher.

And answer my question.

And then it goes.

8:48

Hoops.

I’m sorry.

I guess I did.

The proverbial yes man move.

It’s kind of fun dealing with these things because they take on like a weird personality.

But yeah, so then it did that.

So you still have to check it, dude.

You have to absolutely check everything that you do.

9:04

With AI because most of the time.

It’s lying to you.

And I’m not saying that.

All AI is bad.

I’m just saying that.

We need to, really.

Make sure that whatever.

AI we use.

Or if we integrate.

It into like.

Making our lives easier.

9:21

It has a set.

Value.

It has set parameters to work under.

And then it can.

Only learn and.

Move in those.

Set parameters.

Like for example if you were.

To a company and you were going.

To put it in like a monitor or a sensor for your business, right?

Or or.

Some of the.

9:36

You know, research.

Modes that you have because.

Those things are beneficial to humans.

You need to have that you need to have.

That parameter, that requirement of you can’t move.

Outside this box, right?

If you let it run free, it’s just going to tell you.

Whatever you want.

9:53

So I do think that there is a place for AI.

In you know our.

As a human to make life.

Easier and better for us.

But we have to be careful about it.

And the best?

Places to use it?

Are in a business.

Where you’re using.

10:09

It for research and you have to research, you know, a whole bunch of data in in seconds or.

Or minutes or less time, or in a very short amount of time.

It’s good for sensors.

And it’s good.

For, you know, timers.

Things like that.

Anything that can that’s.

10:25

I.

Think is kind of is mechanical.

Now, I don’t think you should necessarily.

Have a robot that’s AI?

That’s a totally different story, though.

And the reason that I say this is because this week.

We’re bringing.

Back the weed facts.

Segment.

That’s right, we’re bringing back weed facts, baby.

10:40

And that is the.

Center of our weed.

Facts for this week.

Is how AI is improving the cannabis industry so.

Get ready because here.

Come your weed.

Facts for the day, baby.

10:57

Attention cannabis consumer.

So the weave.

Facts for this episode.

Are.

About AI and how it is going to help.

Progress the.

Cannabis industry so I.

Found this article from.

11:12

Cannabis risk manager dot.

Com.

And I’m going to.

Give you the highlights of the article because it was really.

Neat to and then in the IT was really neat to read.

Neat to read and see what they.

Were going to do with it and.

Then we’ll put.

I’ll put the link.

In the show notes.

So that you can check out the full article here, but there’s basically.

11:30

Four major.

Shifts and experts have.

Identified 4 optimizations.

That are being made and integrated by.

A or by integrating.

AI into the industry and it’s going.

To enhance operations.

As well as the.

Consumer experience and of.

Course, this is what.

11:46

They say, and of course.

It will come with the opportunity, it’ll come with.

Opportunities and some challenges.

So the the 1st.

Major shift comes with cultivating cultivation systems.

Generally, there are laborious.

And intensive experience driven.

12:04

Process you have to.

Balance light cycles.

Humidity, nutrients, and genetics to produce consistent.

Yields and quality.

Flour and any.

Producer could tell you that this takes up a lot of.

Time, and there’s a lot of.

Experience that goes into knowing how to do that.

So head growers.

And things can really benefit from.

12:20

These systems, especially if.

You’re new to the industry.

Just out of university or college?

And you can it’ll.

It basically takes away having to learn decades of of of tiny little adjustments to make your product perfect, right?

12:36

And then it can.

Set up predefined parameters.

For your grow up.

And notify your production.

Team at the exact.

Right moment.

To make those adjustments.

Where you would just.

Where normally.

You would need somebody that had so many years of.

Experience they could.

Look at it.

And be like, oh, I know what’s.

12:52

Happening.

So incorporating AI sensors.

Into grow rooms will.

Introduce the predictability.

And consistency right down to when the plants.

Are most vulnerable.

To pests and diseases, which is one of the.

Biggest.

Problems in terms of growing a brand new crop right and having.

13:08

To having to.

Make sure that the yield is right as well.

There’s also the predictive.

Analytics in retail.

That are going to.

Be affected by this.

So basically they use.

Predictive.

Analytics platforms already, but by that analyze purchasing patterns and product preferences and market trends.

13:27

OK, but as they become.

More.

Sophisticated and integrated into.

Point of sale systems.

The they become They’re going to help dispensaries anticipate, demand, optimize.

Inventory and then refine marketing campaigns.

13:42

More accurate, more accurately.

For producers.

So there’s some, like I said it within the box.

Of the parameters.

That you can just define it.

Or you can define.

For it, it’s it’s great at doing that.

But when you let it run Willy nilly.

You never know you.

Might just get like a little shop of horrors weed plant that just starts.

13:59

Ingesting everybody.

Maybe they try to.

Smoke us.

The benefit to the?

Consumer is that.

Recommendation is recommendations because.

AI will be able to suggest products.

Based on their user preference, their desired.

14:14

Effects and even medication, medical.

Conditions in some cases.

And it has potential.

To be placed into apps.

Or wearable.

Devices that people wear.

So that it starts.

To remember record.

And keep the data so that you can you can next.

Time you go into a pot shop.

14:31

You could just easily.

Look at the data, be like Oh yeah, that strain did.

This and that’s what’s happening to me right now.

I have pain in my knee and I need something that’s going to take away the.

Pain.

It’ll be great.

The downside for that will be that the.

People that.

Don’t want to be?

On a.

List and show.

Their ID Guess what, you’re on the biggest list ever, baby.

And then obviously in the.

14:49

Direction of in the.

In the.

Section of quality.

Compliance and control.

There’s going to be, there’s going to be a.

Lot more.

Ability to refine how quickly you can do.

The reporting of things.

15:05

So when you’re getting your shop ready, when you when you have to do your.

Annual, I think.

It’s annual, maybe.

Your reoccurring.

Compliance when you have.

To fill out that.

Paperwork AI can help.

You fill out that.

Paperwork.

It’ll also make sure.

That it’s correct.

15:21

And that.

Everything that you’ve got is what you need so that there’s no missed compliance issues.

There’s no it cuts down on fines and and.

It’ll it’ll really.

Bring down mistakes basically in terms of.

Quality control you.

15:37

Won’t run into.

The issue where people.

Are.

Lying about percentages, putting on bad like wrong labels and things like that.

Miss notifying.

People of what?

Is actually.

In the in the.

15:54

Package that they’re buying right.

So that’s.

Going to be.

Very good.

That’s going to be.

Very beneficial.

It’ll alleviate.

Discrepancies and reduce the.

Potential for non compliance.

16:10

And regulatory fines as well.

I mean, that’s basically what I just said, but that’s what that’s what they’re talking about.

It’ll help with research.

It’ll help.

Refining R and.

D by having AI.

Analyze extensive data clusters trials.

Studies and consumer feedback.

Producers will have a tool to identify new.

16:27

Opportunities quicker.

Yeah, because how long does it take you to go?

Through an article.

AI could do it in like milliseconds right?

It’ll help producers.

Refine and identify cannabinoid and terpene combinations for.

Specific therapeutic outcomes.

Which is clearly beneficial for the consumer.

16:44

I mean, obviously.

And then?

Ultimately AI in.

The R&D phase of production.

Has a multitude of applications.

To better serve.

The industry as a.

Whole.

Helping companies innovate, reduce.

Time reduce time wasted on trial and error and maintain.

Quality.

17:00

So again, going back to.

You know, trying to.

Like.

When you do like test grows and things like that to see if.

You can get a.

Phenotype to work.

That’ll be.

Perfect for that because it will help you.

It will help you in the.

Process of that and potentially cut down time as.

You learn.

So those are your refacs for this week.

17:18

How?

AI is going to help the cannabis industry.

Grow and.

Flourish as a whole.

That’s right, attention.

Cannabis consumer attention attention cannabis consumer Now The thing is with anything like.

This OK?

You’re going to run into issues.

17:33

Where you have to.

Research or you have.

To double check you have to triple.

Check sometimes.

What the AI does for you because.

There’s going to be.

A big learning curve.

Like when AI first.

Came out, everybody thought, Oh my God, we’re just going to.

Throw AI out there and it’s going to be amazing, right well, the.

17:52

AI had a few flaws.

Yeah, that’s right.

AI had a few, some really bad.

Ones and some really.

Funny ones, but it’s.

It’s because of the.

Integration with humans.

That it’s funny and dumb.

OK, because humans don’t.

Want to actually put effort into doing things?

18:09

They just kind of.

Do things because they’re told.

To a lot of the time.

Most people, I think.

Just negate.

The fact that they should put, they should put some time.

And effort into understanding what it.

Is that they’re doing and what they’re.

Using SO in the beginning of AI, these are some of the dumbest things that have.

18:24

Happened to people or that people have used it for or AI fails in general and this is the do for real segment.

Baby dude, for real, for real.

Dude so this is dumb things.

That people have done.

With AI now I’ve.

Got a few of these.

18:40

Instances or stories from.

Around the web.

The first one comes from vice dot.

Com again I will put these in the show notes.

As well.

So you.

Can see them so you can actually go and check out.

The different sites that have.

More than.

Just these ones, but I thought these ones.

18:56

Were kind of the.

Funniest so vice dot.

Com’s the 1st.

One and it’s.

An article called.

Stories for people who asked AI for.

Medical advice A. 60 year old man.

Wanted to reduce salt in his diet.

Chat ChatGPT told him to.

Replace table salt.

With sodium bromide.

19:13

Sodium bromide is a.

Chemical used to clean.

Swimming pools.

He did it.

And for three months.

He was hospitalized with.

Bromide.

Poisoning.

He suffered hallucinations and.

Confusion and his case.

Was documented.

In the Annals of.

Annals the annals of internal medicine clinical cases so he became.

19:34

One of the first.

People, that was.

Documented to have a stupid health.

Problem because of AI.

This one comes.

This one involves potential.

Murder suicide.

OK, so if you don’t, don’t listen to this.

But it was it was dumb, so I had to put it on here.

So at cio.com.

19:51

They had an article.

Called famous analytics.

And an AI and.

AI disasters, so this.

One ChatGPT, allegedly.

Involved in a murder?

Suicide in August of I think.

The year was actually. 20 It was 2025 in August 2020. 5 so.

20:08

Relatively new this.

Wasn’t way back then.

This was new, so according to.

The New York Post report.

ChatGPT.

Have, may have, may have.

Fueled the delusions of.

A former Yahoo manager who killed his mother.

And himself after months of interactions.

With the chat bot.

Whom he called Bobby.

20:25

Stein, Eric.

Solberg, 56, killed his mother, Suzanne Everson Adams. 83 in her home in Greenwich.

Connecticut on August 25.

August 5th, 2020.

Five and then.

Committed suicide shortly after Solberg, who developed illusions that his mother his mother was a Chinese intelligence.

20:43

Agent asset who attempted.

To poison him with.

Psychedelic.

Drugs through his car’s air vents shared.

These thoughts with Bobby for.

Months and the chatbot.

Allegedly.

Agreed with and confirmed Solberg delusions.

20:59

So basically this guy.

Sat around paranoid.

Out of his mind, probably with, you know, some issues that he needed.

To deal with.

And the chat bot told him, yeah, no, go ahead, kill, kill, kill.

Do it.

Just go right ahead.

This one.

Is from BuzzFeed dot.

21:15

Com 10 times AI and robotics have done horrible things.

So this was an AI in a robot.

In a factory, I think yeah, at an at.

An agricultural I can’t.

Speak right now.

At an agricultural produce facility in North.

Korea An.

21:31

Employee in his 40s was inspecting a.

Robot’s sensor operations.

When the machine suddenly.

Malfunctioned.

In a horrific error, the robot.

‘S arm grabbed the man, shoved him against a conveyor belt and crushed his face.

Decent chests he was.

Rushed to the hospital.

21:46

But died shortly after.

Officials believe the robot confused the man with the box of bell Peppers.

And it had been programmed that it.

That it had been.

Programmed.

To handle one report.

From the Korea.

Herald quoted A city official is saying the robot was responsible for lifting boxes of produce, it appears.

22:05

And misidentified the man as a box and grabbed him.

So, yeah, right, maybe.

You should have checked.

That code.

Before you put.

It in there?

Before you before you had robots moving heavy things around.

Or deciding that humans were.

A box of bell Peppers.

When I was saying.

22:23

Sensors.

Earlier I really just meant like little sensors.

That sit on things and.

Sense things, not a robot, OK?

So this one’s from reader.

Sdigest.com.

And it’s called hilarious.

Mistakes made by artificial intelligence.

So.

22:39

Hanson Robotics CEO David.

Hanson and his humanoid humanoid robot Sophia.

Appeared on the CNB.

On CNB CS The pulse.

He himself.

Asked the AI.

What was clearly.

On the.

Mind of many people in the studio.

22:54

Sophia, do you want to?

Destroy humans without hesitation, Sophia smilingly, A tad too broadly.

For our.

For these people’s tastes, responded.

OK, I’ll destroy humans.

Not so bueno.

23:12

Live Science.

Had an article called. 32 times artificial intelligence got it catastrophically.

Wrong a 20. 18 Analysis by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Oh, this is a.

Government one, this one.

‘S kind of.

Good A20. 18 analysts analysis.

23:29

From the American.

Civil liberties.

Union.

Found that Amazon’s Amazon’s recognition AIA.

Part of Amazon Web Services incorrectly identified 28.

Then members of Congress as people.

Who had been arrested?

23:45

The errors came with images of members of both main parties, affecting both men and women and people.

Of color were more.

Likely to be wrongly.

Identified great racist AI right off the bat, baby.

So that’s why we have to fact.

24:00

Check this shit.

You got to make sure that it’s right.

Before you put.

It out there, man.

So last one.

This one’s like an.

Honorable mention, OK.

So vice.com had another.

This was a second.

One I pulled from that same article.

Of. 4 horror stories from people who asked AI for medical.

24:17

Advice a Moroccan man.

Asked ChatGPT.

About a cauliflower.

Like Lesion near his.

Anus.

The bot mentioned hemorrhoids.

And suggested elastic ligation.

A.

Procedure that uses a rubber band to cut off blood.

24:34

Flow to swollen veins.

He attempted it himself with a thread.

What?

People are nuts dude.

Doctors later removed it.

After he.

Arrived at the hospital.

In agony.

As it turned out, the growth wasn’t a hemorrhoid, but a 3 centimeter.

24:51

Genital wart.

Dude.

For real.

Dude for real.

For real dude.

So if we’re.

Learning anything.

From this.

Don’t trust AI, don’t let it be like the.

25:08

End all, be all.

Of whatever it is that you’re.

Doing make sure that you put some effort in to learn.

About the thing that you’re trying to.

Accomplish and also.

If you have medical if you are asking it medical advice, go.

To a doctor AI.

Doesn’t know it’s a It’s a chat robot.

25:25

Don’t, don’t.

Rely on AI.

Those are my thoughts.

Off the stem for this week.

Hope you enjoyed the sesh.

Hope you come back next week with me, Justin Peroni on thoughts.

Off the stem.

You know what?

You can now.

Go to TOTS 4. 20.com and get everything right there that’s.

Right, so just go.

25:40

To tots420.com and check out all the episodes.

And all.

The links to Spotify.

YouTube, all that.

Fun stuff, it’s all.

Right on that page.

And it’s ready to.

Go.

You can also get.

The.

Show notes.

I’ll put those up.

As a blog post on there so you can read through.

25:56

What I just read.

You and then you can have all the.

Links to all the places I’ll also put.

The.

Links up in the weed facts section.

Oftots420.com and I’ll put the.

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Gross things that should never be free samples

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"It’s just a little tester." The five most dangerous words in the English language.

In this week’s sesh, Justin Barone is dismantling the "Try Before You Buy" economy and taking it to its most illogical, biohazardous conclusion. What starts as a simple gripe about communal vapes at the local pot shop quickly spirals into a fever dream of cross-contamination that would make a health inspector faint.

On Thoughts Off The Stem, we strip away the filters to look at the root of the problem: humanity has lost its mind. Join Justin as he navigates a retail hellscape where hygiene goes to die.

Inside this episode’s descent into madness:

  • The Dental Deposit: Why your dentist wants you to "rent" a tester tooth for 48 hours. It’s a loaner for your face. Don't lose it. 🦷
  • The Pharmacy’s "Sample Sunday": We’re transforming your local drugstore into a medical Costco. Imagine a world where a friendly employee in a hairnet offers you a "bite-sized" shot of Neti Pot solution and a "communal" foot scraper. 🤮
  • The "Personal Care" Gauntlet: From at-home enema demonstrations to the "tasting tray" of dental floss and bum wipes, we explore the exact moment that "free" becomes a felony. 🧼
  • The Adult Store Apocalypse: We hit the final boss of retail sampling. Edible undies? Flesh lights? Vibrators? If there’s a "tester" version on the shelf, we’re questioning the sanity of everyone involved. 🔞

This episode is a journey through the aisles of the absurd, where the only thing spreading faster than the jokes is the staph infection. It’s unfiltered social commentary with that signature elevated wit you expect from the stem.

Grab your hazmat suit. You’re going in. Stay Rooted.

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True North and The American Dumpster Fire

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Looking south from the “True North Strong and Free”… do we need to pass you the joint or what?

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In this episode of Thoughts Off The Stem, we’re sparking up and peering over the 49th parallel to witness the absolute unit of a circus that is the American political landscape. Sometimes you need a little herb just to take the edge off, especially when the “quiet neighbors” upstairs are watching the party downstairs turn into a full-blown dumpster fire.

​We’re breaking down the madness with the bewildered curiosity only a slightly toasted Canadian can provide, covering:

• ​The TikTok Trauma Feed: Why MAGA ideology on the FYP feels like a hockey riot where nobody is wearing skates and everyone is screaming at the ref.

• ​The Death of Civil Discourse: Is “please” and “thank you” officially extinct, or has the culture war just made everyone forget how to share the metaphorical bong?

• ​The “Maple MAGA” Leak: How political polarization is trickling north faster than a cold front from the Arctic, testing our “sorry” reflex to the limit.

​Join Thoughts Off The Stem for a comedic deep dive into why “America the Great” has become America the “I Said We’re Great.” We’re looking for common ground, but at this point, we’d settle for a conversation that doesn’t end in a digital restraining order.

​Whether you’re a concerned Canuck or an exhausted American, let’s see if we can find some chill in a world that’s lost its cool.

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Start a Podcast for $0 (The Essentials)

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Welcome to the third instalment of the “Start a Podcast for $0” series. With 5 years of podcasting experience I wanted to help those with podcasting dreams start their own podcast.

This isn’t a deep dive into the most extensive podcast setups, or expensive tech. This is a blue collar grass roots journey in to podcast production. Many people want to put their ideas and creativity out to the masses and they have a hard time getting started.

This episode “Start a Podcast for $0 (The Essentials)”. Helps identify the tools you already have at your finger tips to get started. There is no investment or budget needed and you can start today. This will help you bring your idea to life, with tips on how to stay out of your own way when deciding what content to create, how to refine your sound with free audio editing programs and where to set yourself up with free hosting.

The whole series is a simple step by step guide to getting started. These are the essentials, the only things you need, to actually become the host of your own podcast.

We’ll also discuss some of the mistakes I’ve made and money I’ve wasted in trying to produce a quality podcast. Because why spend money or waste time if you don’t have to.

I hope this episode and series gives you the tools and confidence to start your podcast dreams.

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Start A Podcast For $0 (Lessons That Actually Matter)

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Welcome to part 2 of “Start A Podcast For $0 (Zero Budget Guide)”. In this episode “The $0 Blueprint: 5 Years Of Podcast Lessons That Actually Matter”by Thoughts Off The Stem, we discuss what I’ve learned over the last five years of podcasting, the things that are most important and should be the primary focus of your attention when starting out.

Many podcasts out there fail within the first year because people lose sight of what is important, have over inflated expectations, and let external influences dictate how they view success.

Podcasting is fun and can be a lucrative business but for most people it doesn’t start out that way. There are a many factors that go into the growth of a podcast that, you as new person starting out are going to learn as you go. As your show’s concept, creative ideas and audience evolve so does your production, and production is an aspect that improves over the course of time with a lot of trial and error. It’s very unlikely that your show is going to skyrocket to the top of the charts after the first week. I’m not saying it can’t happen I’m saying it’s unlikely.

“The $0 Blueprint: 5 Years Of Podcast Lessons That Actually Matter” is essentially a guide to avoiding the pitfalls and mistakes that a lot of new podcasters fall into and make. There are over 4 million podcasts out there, it’s a big pool for listeners to choose from. If you keep that in perspective and remind yourself of the depth of the pool it helps to maintain healthy expectations. Especially for the podcaster like myself who has to find and build a fan base, as well as trust with listeners.

I hope you enjoy the sesh.

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