Stop Working For Free: Exposure Doesn’t Pay The Bills

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:07

Everybody wants something for nothing.

Imagine walking into a pot shop.

Asking for an ounce of flour then.

Offering to pay in food stamps or social media.

Exposure.

Yeah, they’d.

Laugh you out the building.

Because it’s not your.

Buddy’s Garage.

Dude, but apparently in the podcasting.

0:25

World Everybody’s inbox is a black market dealer’s garage.

Where you can offer to run errands and get your bag for free.

Welcome to Thoughts off the Stem.

I’m Justin.

Baroni, I hope.

That life’s being good to you because.

Lately, life’s been treating me like a prospecting pimp.

And I’m a prospective hooker.

0:43

Recently a couple companies reached out to me.

With their pimp hand asking me to get on the track and work for nothing less than a slap in the face.

Light them if you got them.

Because this is how it played out.

So I had two companies reach out to me.

0:59

Recently 1.

Was a tin holder.

For joints a company.

That made these like.

Portable.

You know, like a cigarette tin.

OK, the company reached.

Out asked me.

If I would do.

A review on the podcast, which means that the review becomes, you know.

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A part of.

The YouTube review.

Playlist as well.

And then he they wanted to have they would send or sorry, they would send me a free.

Sample of the product.

And then they would pay me a rate.

Whatever my rate might be.

So because I’ve never.

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Really had this opportunity before I had to look up.

Industry rates.

So I looked.

Up some industry rates.

They weren’t overly.

Expensive.

No.

No.

They were quite reasonable for the amount of work that.

Goes into creating a podcast doing a 5 minute review of a product.

That, quite frankly.

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Is a tin.

It opens, it closes.

And you open it up, you put your joint in it, and then you close the tin and you’re good to go.

You can walk it down the street they wanted.

Social media posts.

So they wanted a.

Story.

They wanted a post on my feed they wanted to end up in like I.

2:03

Said the YouTube review.

Playlist that’s on my YouTube site.

No problem. 5 minute.

Review in the middle of the.

Episode.

I said sure.

No problem.

So again.

I looked up these rates.

I found out what was a reasonable rate and I even went.

Lower than that, because I hadn’t charged anybody for doing anything like that before and I thought.

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This will be great.

I’ll send it back to them.

So I sent it.

Back to them and they ghosted me.

I don’t know what they actually expected, but I think.

It was a lot.

More worse or pay?

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Was a lot less than what they anticipated.

Or.

Pay was a lot more than what?

They anticipated OK.

Now granted this one.

Could have actually just.

Been a dude.

That, you know, works out of his garage.

Making these tins.

So I kind of, I didn’t give it a hard time.

I didn’t really give.

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It a second thought.

But at the same time I thought.

What do you?

Want you want to give me this?

Tin that you’re charging like 20 bucks for per.

Tin and you want me to?

Do all this work?

Surrounding it.

But you don’t want.

To pay me for it, you just.

Want to give me?

The free product.

That’s ridiculous.

You want me to shout me out?

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On your social media, that’s whatever.

I know that I don’t have a ton of followers.

I know that like you know I’m.

Not an astronomical show.

But here’s the thing, I do everything professionally.

So.

When I do everything professionally.

You get the full.

Gambit of options.

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OK, you can.

You can decide not to have some of them.

But everybody that approaches.

You wants these wants all of the things for a very.

Minimal amount of money.

And the amount of the amount of effort that.

Goes into it.

I still need to be paid for.

My time, the second company.

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That was that approached.

Me.

Approached me with the.

Idea of a partnership opportunity.

Now to me.

A partnership means.

I give you something and you give me an equal amount of something back, OK?

This company was a podcast editing tool.

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It was an AI tool.

That you use online.

What they wanted me to do?

What their?

What their?

Structure of their partnership meant.

Was that they wanted.

A three month partnership.

But they wanted.

One of those three months for free.

That’s not really a partnership.

They called.

It a trial.

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Period.

OK.

If you want a trial period, I’ll give.

You a trial period, but that’s.

Beyond the three months.

You want one month trial?

Sure.

And then three months not?

I’ll give you 3 months, but one month is.

A trial you’re essentially.

Asking to do asking.

For me to.

Do it for free.

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Right, so they want.

That that was their first.

Stipulation then, then the.

Bulk of it was I had to use their AI.

Software and edit and.

Produce all of my.

Episodes on that AI.

Software.

They wanted one.

Episode a week?

Well I only do 1 episode a week.

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OK.

That if your software doesn’t work.

Then I’m out an episode.

And I’m screwed because.

I can’t make it with something else and then.

Reference it.

That’s not part of the deal.

OK, then they wanted me.

To do like the.

The Tin Guy and they wanted me.

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To do social media.

Posts.

They wanted me to include in the episode advertisements at the beginning, which is prime time obviously, and then throughout the episode when it made sense.

Sure, no problem, I’ll design it around that.

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Their AI software.

I have a video.

Podcast.

There’s a video element to it.

Their software, from what I could figure out, didn’t really jive with the video.

Side of things.

So it was an audio.

Software only.

That they were.

Providing then they wanted me to.

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Like I said.

Edit and produce and produce them a.

Series of social clips.

That again, would end up on my YouTube, my socials and on my podcast and in the episode essentially had to be designed around that because there’s no sense of doing the ad if I’m not going to.

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Talk about the topic.

As well, right?

So that’s what they that’s what.

They wanted they wanted me to review it on the podcast as well, which is another 5 minute segment.

Or the weed.

Facts segment, but that.

Doesn’t work for weed.

Facts because.

Now I’m reviewing.

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Audio software or video software?

AI software, right?

And then the kicker was they wanted me to give them.

Free rights to my.

Content, The content that I’m creating with their.

Software to to.

Put on their social media and run in ads indefinitely.

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So again, not knowing much.

About this I decided.

To look it up now, to me, the rates didn’t.

The rates weren’t.

Astronomical you.

Can ask for anywhere.

From 100 to 500.

Dollars is basically.

The standard in the podcast podcasting industry.

So I figured based on the amount of work that they want me to do, based on the fact that I may not have an episode.

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Produced because.

In their own words.

They sent me this.

We just launched the platform.

You’ll use this is.

Quoting them in their e-mail.

The platform you will.

Use is built for.

Early Access.

You might encounter some.

Bugs.

Or you might have suggestions.

For improvements in our.

7:00

UI.

Reporting.

All of the bugs.

In description in this.

Sorry, reporting all of the bugs.

And giving us feedback.

In our chat box.

In the studio is.

Essential to the partnership.

So basically these guys wanted me.

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To be there like.

Research and development team and.

Their quality assurance team.

And they wanted to pay a.

Drum roll they.

Wanted to pay me 15 to. $20.00 an episode.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Do you know?

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How much?

Effort goes into.

That, especially if you’re admitted.

Software that’s not ready to go out to market yet, doesn’t work properly and screws.

Me out of putting out a weekly.

Episode granted.

Like I said.

I don’t have a huge following.

OK, I don’t have.

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I don’t have the.

Reach that a Joe.

Rogan has.

But I do have.

Time and in that time my time needs to be compensated.

You can’t just ask.

For somebody to give.

You something so that.

You can use it without.

Actually providing them with some.

8:04

Kind of collateral.

You know what I’m saying?

That’s a.

Partnership.

Not whatever this was.

So Needless to say, I sent them my.

What I learned and I sent.

Them an e-mail back saying you know this.

Is what’s actually worth this is what you’re at?

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Asking me to do.

And so my rate per.

Episode is this.

And I think I settled on about 200 and. 50 bucks for an.

Episode.

Especially if you want.

One month free.

Are you fucking?

Kidding me?

You got to make it worth my time.

I’m not doing doing.

You know, hours and hours of.

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Work for less than. 20 bucks an hour.

Of pay.

That’s crazy.

It.

Takes a while to produce this show man, I hate to say.

It but it does.

Everybody wants something for free.

8:55

So in thinking about and reviewing and.

Sort of, you know.

Replaying all of this in my.

Head I started thinking like how?

Can I make this make sense to the weed?

Facts.

Well, this.

Is how we make.

It make sense, OK.

Forget that everybody wants.

Everything to be free.

Let’s talk about what’s.

9:12

Good and bad weed.

And how to tell?

What good and bad?

Weed is, yeah.

That’s right.

This week’s weed.

Facts are about good are about how to.

Tell.

Whether you have good or bad weed attention cannabis consumers attention cannabis consumers.

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This week’s weed facts.

Come from 4:20.

Magazine.

And the article is.

How to distinguish distinguish between bad weed?

From how to?

Distinguish bad weed.

From Good weed.

I’ll put the article.

In the show notes and you could check.

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Out the full blown article.

But these are the.

Basic main points of the whole situation, but first.

Let’s just get this.

Off my let.

Let me just get this off.

My chest OK THC.

Potency is not.

Necessarily a qualification.

For good weed.

Potency is a byproduct of great cultivation.

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Lower THC levels don’t.

Necessarily mean it’s a bad plant.

OK, so let’s get into this.

Let’s get into this.

Properly the things.

And the main points.

Or the main.

Like like talking.

Points no the main.

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Focal points of good weed are this.

Smell is #1.

Good weed.

Has a stronger odor.

It’s pungent, bold.

And it’s very nuanced.

You’ll be able to smell a.

Bunch of different things in there.

You’ll smell weed, you might smell a different type of flavor, some of the terpene profiles.

Come off it and you get like.

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You know, an earthy of smell or a citrusy smell or whatever.

Whatever blueberry.

Smell, you know, whatever it is.

But here’s the key.

To the smell, if the smell.

Makes your brain immediately go I want that in my face hole.

That’s good weed.

Good.

Weed makes you want to eat the weed.

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It tricks your brain into thinking that.

Now the look.

It should be visually.

Appealing, obviously.

It should be fluffy but look dense.

It should.

Look like when?

You’re driving.

Down like the Adirondacks.

And you’re trying to.

Look between the trees and you can’t see between the trees.

That’s what it should look like, OK?

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It should be nice thick.

Dense, fluffy, look sticky.

Look like you might.

Get it stuck?

On a wall.

If you threw it like baloney.

OK.

It should have.

Healthy looking.

Hairs white, red or orange.

And they should be.

Vibrant.

Not dull.

If they’re dull, no bueno.

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OK, the trichomes.

Should be visible, meaning that if you see.

This nug of weed and you look at it and.

You go, my brain.

Wants to eat that then your your brain.

Should also go.

Oh, that looks like cake.

Because it’s got.

Like a nice light.

Frosting on it.

OK, nugs, when you touch them the.

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Feel The feel is.

Very important.

OK.

Nugs should feel sticky.

And slightly spongy, but then when you squish them they should bounce right back.

As if like you.

Didn’t squish them, stem should snap.

Like brittle.

Like they not brittle.

But they should like.

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They should snap.

They should make.

A loud cracking.

Sound like like Bigfoot slamming, slamming, slamming, knocking wood in the woods.

OK, in the forest.

OK.

And again the stem.

It when it snaps.

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It shouldn’t have that one.

Strand like celery that hangs on for dear life.

No, that’s no bueno.

The structure.

Of the plant should have a definitive.

Structure so.

What I mean by that is a lot of the times.

You see people.

Or you or people.

A lot of the times you’ll.

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See a a nug that’s like.

It’s got a few.

Little branches.

It looks like a.

Full nug, but when?

You hold it up.

Close.

It’s actually.

A couple different nugs kind of mushed.

Together on really thin.

Stems.

No.

It should be dense and tight.

Where if you crack it open.

There’s no airy open.

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Spots in between.

Sativa Flowers.

Just so you know.

The difference between sativa and indica, even though there’s a lot of debate on whether that’s even like a thing anymore.

But Sativa.

Flowers tend to be.

Light and fluffy and and and indicas tend to be tighter.

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And denser in a flower.

Structure.

So a sativa.

Plant.

Will be a little.

Bit longer and look more.

Like a mini Christmas tree whereas an indica will look.

Fatter.

And and.

Shorter with kind of.

Like a a.

Shrub or a hedge?

OK, so that’s how you tell if you have good weed?

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Now for for.

Recognizing and identifying bad weed.

The smell is going to be musty or mildewy.

It might smell like it might smell like you’ve been out.

It’s been out in the woods for too long.

That’s not a good smell.

A musty or straw?

Like aroma is a clear.

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Indication of age.

Or compromised cannabis degrading.

Cannabis.

If it.

Smells like a.

Campfire before or after?

You light it, it’s not a quality.

Product you might still.

Get high as shit but part of.

That is because.

You’re not getting enough.

Oxygen to your brain.

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Not enough.

Oxygen to your brain.

OK.

The look.

The look.

For bad weed, kind of.

Gives you like.

Nature will give.

You a few.

Visual cues when you’re looking at a good plant versus a bad 1A low quality cannabis plant can.

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Appear like a dirty.

Brown.

I’ve had a few.

Of those it’s it’s really.

Tight and dense OK.

A lot or.

Or it’s really flaky.

And dry.

Both will be dry but like.

If you get a.

Christmas tree looking nug.

That’s really bad.

It’ll be Brent.

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Like a Brent like.

A Christmas tree you.

Put on the curb in March.

You know what?

I’m saying that’s.

What it’ll look like.

It might be tight and.

Everything but the second you touch it or you get fired near it, the whole thing just.

Goes up in smoke like the cat in Chevy in Christmas vacation under the under the couch.

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You know what I’m saying?

So they’ll.

Have like this dirt?

Brown.

Or they can also, so they’ll have a dirt brown color if they’re really dried out if they’re if.

They’re a bad nug and they’re.

Over watered.

Like they’re too there’s.

Too much in there then.

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They’ll have like this.

Kind of green light.

Green color to it.

That just basically means immaturity they they got.

Picked a little too early.

So one very important.

Indicator of bad weed.

Is the appearance of amber colored trichomes trichomes?

Should be clear.

They should look like.

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Frosted.

Doughnut or cake frosting?

On a on a plant.

If it.

Looks like it’s been.

Covered in like.

Cinnamon or sugar?

That shit.

‘S going bad, OK.

The feel for bad weed.

Like I said, it’ll.

Be dry, it’ll be brittle.

It’ll if you put a flame.

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Near it it’ll.

Light up like gasolines close by.

It’ll easily.

Crumble when handled.

If it’s overly.

Wet the stems that the stems won’t snap OK, and they’ll have that like.

Like I said, celery.

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Kind of 1 celery strand.

That kind of hangs.

On for dear life, you know.

Wet nugs.

That tear apart rather than rather.

Than kind of like.

Shred OK, probably have mold and mildew or could.

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Have mold and mildew or they’re like I said, a.

Premature plant and you don’t want a premature plant.

Basically what all of that?

Means.

Is that the cultivar?

Didn’t dry and.

Cure the cannabis properly.

If it’s moist like that, if it’s got.

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If it’s really dry it could have just sat.

For a long.

Time with a lot of exposure to like light.

And the elements, but it could also be that they have.

Like overused.

Some kind of like?

Plant where they call it.

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Like a growth hormone for the.

Plant it can just.

Overdo it really quickly.

And then the.

Structure for bad weed a careless a.

Carelessly grown.

Plant can produce.

Inferior looking flowers, obviously.

But basically what I mean is they won’t.

Look, they won’t have.

That deep green or the purples or the Blues?

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Or the Reds.

Or, you know, whatever the strain encompasses.

Improperly.

Improper lighting or growing.

Conditions.

Can lead to fluffy.

Or airy nugs.

Like I said, we’re the ones.

That look like a nug but then up.

Close.

They have like.

Tiny little strands that.

Have little like pom.

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Poms on top.

Of them to form a nug that.

Stuff’s no good and while they may contain high levels of cannabinoids and.

Terpenes.

It’s likely that the.

Experience will suffer.

And each.

Hit will feel like.

You’re inhaling campfire smoke.

Yeah.

That’s right, it’ll taste.

Disgusting.

You’ll know right away.

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If you have bad weed.

If it tastes like.

Campfire and there’s no peppery flavor.

Bad weed.

Going it’s going bad, don’t smoke it anymore.

Move on to something better.

Rock hard flowers are a sign that cultivars.

May have used.

Plant growth regulators, that’s what I was trying to say, which can also.

Lead to feeling like you’re.

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Huffing on a campfire.

Again, any kind?

Of plant growth regulator.

Is going to if not flush.

Properly is going to.

Add an element.

To the flavor that’s.

Honestly.

Disgusting.

It’ll make it.

It’ll make it.

Taste like a campfire?

Like you’re burning something out from the woods.

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Yeah, so those are your weed facts for this week.

How to tell if you have good?

Or bad weed attention cannabis consumers attention cannabis consumers.

So just.

Like good or bad weed?

Right, these people at the beginning.

18:18

Of the show, like I was saying.

Or that I was telling you about.

They’re like, good.

Or bad.

They’re bad.

People to market.

With or to play.

The you know to.

To add to.

To work with.

They’re not.

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Really the type.

That you want because they’re the people that.

Want something for nothing and in this week?

‘S dude for real?

Facts or dude for real segment.

We’re going that we’re looking at.

A list from BuzzFeed.

Of people.

And businesses that have?

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Asked artists or other, you know, other.

Businesses to produce something.

For them for literally nothing in return.

And this is how some of those.

People handle it.

So dude for real this is.

The dude for real segment.

19:06

Dude for real.

For real dude.

You know how people say?

That there are no dumb questions.

Well, sometimes.

There are dumb questions.

OK.

And the requests.

From these entitled idiots.

Prove that stupid.

Is as stupid does.

19:22

This is from BuzzFeed.

Dot com Nope, I’m sorry I lied.

This is not from.

BuzzFeed.

This is from Bored.

Panda.com best all time choosing.

Beggars.

That’s right.

So this first one we’ve got is.

It was titled Exposure Doesn’t Pay the Bills.

19:38

My guy.

So this guy walked into a tattoo shop.

And he said this, he texted this to.

The artist, he goes.

Yo man, what’s?

Good your tats are.

Fire, but you could really.

Use more followers.

I’m an up and.

Coming influencer and model.

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And I would be.

Willing to collab?

And shout you out on my insta and get you tons of exposure and trade for some ink.

I want to war.

I want 2 arm.

Sleeves, but we could.

Discuss that later.

Let me know.

And then the part.

20:10

The the.

The tattoo artist responded with.

Lol.

OK.

Exposure doesn’t pay the.

Bills my guy, I tattoo plenty of people with more.

Reach and influence than you.

And they?

Don’t ask for free.

Shit also.

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If you’ve got.

Less than 1/5.

Also, you’ve got less.

Than a. 5th of the followers.

I do.

How about?

You do some free.

Shit for me in exchange for exposure?

Let me know.

I like that one because like fuck that dad, fuck that guy.

20:41

What are you talking about?

Just.

Pay the dude it’s.

Time, baby, you’re paying for time.

So this next one.

Is about a photographer.

I guess he does this on his spare time, so no, no, no he doesn’t.

He does.

This for real?

This is legit.

And this, this guy, it’s called my dad.

‘S a photographer.

This is his most.

20:56

Recent client so.

Text from his client.

Sounds good.

We could shoot some stuff around here also.

I’m down to come into the city and get some great content shots.

I don’t know how to compensate you for your time, but if you were ever down to down to do some great shots to help me get to help get.

21:15

More exposure.

On your photography :).

And the response.

From the Dad I’ve been nominated 3.

Times for a Pulitzer.

I’m so.

Exposed I could be.

Naked, I don’t.

Think he needed the exposure dude.

The next guy is actually it’s.

21:32

About So this one’s a company like a big one.

You all know what it is.

It’s about Huffington.

Post That’s right.

Huff PO being a.

Hypocritical choosing.

Beggar.

So they e-mail.

Or they requested that.

James Bloodworth, who is.

Apparently like a free.

Freelance writer he.

21:48

Goes this is his tweet.

I just.

I’ve just written.

A book on difficulty working on.

Difficulty working class kids have.

Breaking into the profession.

Breaking into the professions.

Because of.

Proliferation of unpaid work.

22:05

Huffington Post contacted me saying it sounded.

Interesting.

So they liked.

It.

Then they.

Asked me to write something.

But unfortunately, they wouldn’t.

Be able to.

Pay me.

However.

Despite being a multi.

Billion dollar company.

So here’s my article.

22:22

You are part of the problem.

At.

Huffington Post.

The End.

Yeah, you can’t really.

Ask somebody to.

Do something for free when they’re.

Talking about.

You know the.

Peripheral the the the.

Proliferation of unpaid work.

22:39

Now this one.

Comes from a farmer.

Now I understand why the farmer.

Might need a little bit of.

Help here and might.

Need a little free labor but I don’t.

Think this is the way.

To go about it.

So work hard enough.

And you’ll.

Get paid in garlic.

Is the, is the.

Title for this.

So they put out.

This is the ad.

Looking for someone to help us plant onions.

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Shallots and garlic.

Tuesday, April 11th.

At our farm at blah blah blah. 15 minutes South.

Of somewhere it is.

Necessary to be.

Hardworking.

Conscientious.

And either have experience.

Planting.

Or be very good.

At listening to directions.

It will be a.

Long day and we have.

To work.

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Fast.

To get it finished.

You will be paid.

In onions, shallots and.

Garlic.

Your choice.

So that’s an or, not an AND.

You get to pick.

Onions, shallots, or garlic?

Not all of them.

You don’t get a.

A smorgasbord you get.

One of the kinds when they but you also.

23:28

Have to wait till they’re harvested.

What a douche.

That’s a douchey.

Farmer this one’s.

Called the Uno reverse card and this one.

Might be my favorite.

So this guy, he basically makes songs.

For people.

And this horse riding?

23:44

This equestrian training.

Facility I guess ass.

Reached out to him.

This is what they said.

Hey Jamie, I’ve seen you write personal songs for couples.

Who are getting married?

But I have a bit of a different.

Request I run a company called scratched out.

And we offer horse riding lessons and.

24:00

On the holidays?

Sorry, let me start that again.

Hey Jamie, I’ve seen you write personal songs for.

Couples who are getting.

Married, but I have a bit of a.

Different.

Request I run a.

Company called scratched out.

And we offer horse riding lessons and and.

Holidays from beginners.

24:17

Right up to experts.

Who want who want more challenging expeditions?

OK.

I was seeing if you’d.

Be up for writing.

Us a song about.

What we do as I think you have such a way with.

Words.

And it could.

Be a great way for getting more.

Exposure for us both.

24:34

We haven’t really got.

A budget at the moment, but if you.

Post it to your page.

We’d happily share the.

Song all over ours.

Let’s make let let let me know.

Your thoughts, Isla or?

Isla Isla Isla so.

24:49

Jamie responds.

Hey, Isla, I’d be.

Naked if I had.

Any more exposure?

Your timing is impeccable.

I’ve seen you offer horse riding lessons, but I have a bit of a different request.

I would love.

To own a horse.

And I was seeing if you’d be up.

25:05

For giving me one of your.

Horses, as I think you have such a.

Way of caring for them I don’t.

Have any kind of budget?

But maybe if you post a picture of me riding at home, you’d.

Have you’d have to.

Give me some lessons.

For free first.

As I’ve never ridden one, I could share.

25:21

That on my page.

And it’d be.

It’d be really great.

Exposure for us both.

Let me know your thoughts.

Jamie.

That guy gets it.

That one’s pretty awesome.

I really like that.

Because I was sarcastic as shit.

That’s the best response.

Flip it on them, baby.

And then this guy.

This guy’s the the last one, but this guy.

25:37

Gets it.

He’s a mechanic, and this is what?

Somebody took somebody took this.

Photo in his waiting room I guess and he said it’s titled my mechanic telling it how it.

Is.

Support artist and labor.

Folks, so this guy really gets it.

All these people in this situation get.

It it’s just a.

25:52

Mechanic and his customer.

But here’s what the.

Mechanic posted in his.

Office if I do a.

Job in 30 minutes.

It’s because I spent. 10 years learning.

How to do that?

In 30.

Minutes, you owe me.

For the years.

Not the minutes, dude.

26:09

For.

Real dude, for real for real dude, everybody.

Wants something for nothing dude.

It’s ridiculous, I think.

The people that reach out to other people for a.

Product or a service, no matter who.

You are or.

What you’re asking for?

Should keep in mind that you’re not paying.

26:27

For the final outcome that.

You get yes, that’s.

Kind of like a part of it, but ultimately you’re paying for.

The person’s experience you’re paying for their.

Capability you’re paying for.

Their ability to create the product that.

The final product or.

Advertisement especially in my.

Case that you want.

26:44

So if you.

Want to be professional?

You want to be.

Taken professionally, act professionally.

Act accordingly.

Let’s.

Stop trying to stiff.

People it.

Takes a lot of time to produce.

Things even for social.

Media, even for podcasts.

Something that you?

Think takes no time.

26:59

Takes way more man hours than you could.

Possibly probably conceive until you try to do.

That thing.

Those are my thoughts off the stem for this week.

I hope you enjoyed the sesh.

I hope you come back next week with me.

Justin Baroni on thoughts off the stem.

Check out TOTS. 420.com for.

Blogs, the show notes.

27:16

For I put up a new player.

It’s there’s all kinds.

Of fun stuff happening.

On there you.

Can check out everything.

From TOTS 420.

Dot com until next time.

Keep your lids low, baby.

AI is a Big Fat Liar

Thoughts Off The Stem | Cannabis Infused Comedy

0:03

Welcome to Fox Office 10.

Thanks for joining the sesh with me, Justin Peroni.

I hope that life is being.

Good to you.

And this week I want to talk about.

The fact that AI is a big fat liar, Yeah, that’s right.

AI is lying to you.

And the longer that I’ve used it.

Because I’ve been using it for a few months now.

0:19

The longer that I’ve used it, I’ve realized it’s full of shit.

At first it.

Started off great because.

I was using.

It for SEO and what’s it called metadata to try and.

Move my podcast up.

The podcast ranks right, and at first.

It was great.

It was like Hussein Bolt racing white guys.

0:36

Right, but then after a bunch of prompts from ChatGPT.

All of a sudden it.

Fell off the Cliff like a wife who’d.

Been pushed by her husband.

To try and collect.

Insurance money.

Yeah.

Just right into the trees.

But the longer that I.

0:51

Used it the more.

I started to realize that it became the stereotypical yes man it was.

Like the the newest.

Stoner in the In the.

Circle that just sat.

In the corner and smiled and.

Nodded.

You know what I’m saying?

Yeah.

That’s what ChatGPT.

Is.

Or at least that’s what AI chat bots are.

1:08

They’re just, they’re just stereotypical, yes.

Men smiling and nodding.

We treat them as if they’re Gandalf.

The great, like they have some wizardly powers or something like that, but in reality what’s actually happening is we’re like.

New parents with.

Toddlers who are asking.

1:24

The toddlers how to parent.

Them, yeah.

So I initially started.

Using ChatGPT and I was using it like I.

Said to change.

The SEO, The metadata.

So that I could get a better reach.

In terms of.

Discovery and things like.

1:39

That right?

Well then after chat GT started doing what it does and justice agreeing with me, I started using Gemini and when I started using Gemini I.

Had this thought.

It’s.

Like when you meet someone cute and then all of a.

1:55

Sudden you meet their hotter sibling or friend.

And then you’re like.

Man, I wish I could have met you first.

That’s what it was like.

For Gemini.

For Gemini.

When I started.

Using it, it was.

Totally different.

It was like a It was.

A little.

Bit of a better set up I think.

And in using it, I found that the advice wasn’t as yes, Manny.

2:17

Now I started using Gemini to do the things that I’d done with ChatGPT.

To try and recover.

The failures of chat.

GPT and what I had.

What I what?

The rankings I had.

Lost from using that and when I started using Gemini I I now understood.

2:33

How to use?

Prompts.

Correctly and how to?

Talk to it correctly so that I could get a more devil’s advocate approach to it, right?

And so I started using that and I found it’s starting to dig me out.

Slowly but surely.

It’s digging me back out now the.

Problem.

2:48

With it is it’s.

Still got its flaws.

It still has its.

Issues because when I was using that.

Tool.

It’s still made.

Like simplistic mistakes, right?

And the fact that when you.

3:04

Ask it a.

Question.

We expect it to be like your buddy.

And doing doing the thing that you.

Asked it to do.

What ends up happening?

It’s a is it’s.

Actually, just like a, it’s like it’s it’s.

Designed.

To help to be helpful.

Right.

And in its design, it’s going to.

3:21

Basically lead.

You in a direction that you want to hit.

So it’s going to kind of.

Create a confirmation.

Bias to a certain extent, so you have to.

Learn what prompts to use and what.

Prompts not to use.

Right, because.

Unlike or I mean.

3:36

Just like Tesla.

When it first started and the car couldn’t recognize.

The end of a road the the ChatGPT.

Apps or like the AI chat app chat.

Bots don’t understand.

That they’re a tool to be used.

They’re they’re they.

They’re a robot.

And they should.

3:51

Just give you.

Some like unfiltered.

Unbiased opinions and play the devil’s advocate, but it doesn’t because it’s a technological.

Drunkard wandering the Internet trying to make friends.

So it’s.

Just going to.

More so tell you.

What you think, what it thinks you should.

4:08

You should have right?

So realistically, it just.

Becomes like.

A robot support animal.

That allows you to sort of like tickle it and pet it and get along.

With it and like.

Ease your tension.

And anxiety, that’s really what happens with it, OK.

4:25

So you have to kind of be careful.

With it and I think.

We all understand it at this point.

But we rely.

On it way too.

Heavily to give us.

Direction and insight on things like health.

Issues.

Or you know how to grow a.

Business now some of those things are good, some of the grow.

4:41

A business things are, but don’t trust it.

For health issues, we’ll find out why.

Later.

On in the dude for real.

Facts at the end.

Or the dude.

For real segment at.

The end of the.

Episode That’s right, there’s a few of.

AI gone wrong issues.

Or or scenarios that played out over time that we’re going to check.

4:57

Out.

OK, so we dismiss.

The fact that AI.

Still needs to be fact checked and and.

Spell checked and.

We.

Just we try to.

Use it because we’re.

Lazy.

And we want everything.

5:13

To.

Sort of just be easy for us, right?

So when AI was developed, we looked at AI as like our savior of.

Of how to fix things and how to do things and give us.

The right answers.

AI does not always give you the right answers.

No, no, you have to go in.

5:28

You have to.

You have to verify it for yourself, but.

A lot of people.

Just want to use it as a way to.

Confirm whatever.

Their thoughts and ideas.

Are because as.

Humans, like I said.

We’re lazy.

And we don’t really want to.

Put in that effort.

We just want something to sort of.

5:45

Solidify what we already.

Think and feel and and and how we want to add and like.

How we act is like the thing to do, right?

Does that make sense?

I feel like I went.

Off.

On a tangent, but.

As humans, we want to make.

Life super easy.

6:00

And we don’t.

Really think about.

Oh, double checking AI, It’s a robot, it should know what it’s doing.

So let me give.

You an.

Example of this OK.

When I was using.

When I was using ChatGPT, no sorry the example I want to give.

6:18

You is this one.

So I was using.

Gemini for the first time, but for a.

While right, so we had a.

Bit of a conversational rapport.

Going, I guess you could say.

And when I did, when I started having these conversations with Gemini, I knew how to.

6:34

Use the prompts right.

I knew how to use the.

Language right?

So I.

I formulated all my, my, I, my.

Questions and directions based on that.

But it’s still flawed.

Because I wrote, I got, I got Gemini to fix all the things that had happened with ChatGPT, right?

6:54

On a Friday.

I did.

This on I did.

This on a Friday.

So I.

Had ChatGPT or I mean I.

Had Gemini formulate.

How to get out of the hole?

That ChatGPT had made.

For me on a.

Friday set it all.

Up did all the things I was.

Supposed to do.

Changed all the stuff I needed to change within.

The podcast background and all that stuff.

7:11

And then went to bed.

And then on.

Saturday I woke up.

And I thought.

You know what, I better just double check.

This so I fed it all.

The exact same questions.

And it gave.

This was the response.

That it gave me.

It told me to return to turn all my stuff, all of the changes I’ve made to.

Revert them back to.

7:28

What I was doing?

Before.

So of course.

I was like.

What the fuck are we doing?

Here right so.

I I told it that I was like, what?

Are you talking about?

You just told me to make all of these changes and wait 2.

To four weeks.

So what do I do now?

And then it got.

Defensive.

Yeah, that’s right.

7:44

It got defensive on me.

And he goes oops.

Sorry.

I’m just a sentient.

Being trying to help you.

I understand that you’re trying to help me, but you’re not helping me in the way.

That.

I want you to.

Help me, you know.

I want you to be the devil’s.

Advocate in this.

So it goes.

I’m sorry.

Just leave all the changes that we did.

8:00

On Friday.

Don’t do anything.

And let it sit for a.

Bit and we’ll see what happens.

That’s what it told me and I was like, all right, fine.

So I’ve left it as it.

Is and I’ve seen an improvement to be honest.

I didn’t just jump the gun and change.

It so you have to constantly.

Go back and double check and make sure that what you’re.

8:17

Doing is the thing that you should be doing and that what ChatGPT or these AI chat bots are telling you.

Are the thing that you?

Should do, right?

So then another.

Conversation I have, I get it to build a picture.

And then it makes.

8:33

The pitcher and then we’re going through and we’re.

Changing things in the.

Pitcher, right?

Well, there’s a certain point where I.

Asked it a question about something that had responded with and it just started.

Creating the pitcher.

Over and over again.

So I said to it like.

Hey, stop making the.

Pitcher.

And answer my question.

And then it goes.

8:48

Hoops.

I’m sorry.

I guess I did.

The proverbial yes man move.

It’s kind of fun dealing with these things because they take on like a weird personality.

But yeah, so then it did that.

So you still have to check it, dude.

You have to absolutely check everything that you do.

9:04

With AI because most of the time.

It’s lying to you.

And I’m not saying that.

All AI is bad.

I’m just saying that.

We need to, really.

Make sure that whatever.

AI we use.

Or if we integrate.

It into like.

Making our lives easier.

9:21

It has a set.

Value.

It has set parameters to work under.

And then it can.

Only learn and.

Move in those.

Set parameters.

Like for example if you were.

To a company and you were going.

To put it in like a monitor or a sensor for your business, right?

Or or.

Some of the.

9:36

You know, research.

Modes that you have because.

Those things are beneficial to humans.

You need to have that you need to have.

That parameter, that requirement of you can’t move.

Outside this box, right?

If you let it run free, it’s just going to tell you.

Whatever you want.

9:53

So I do think that there is a place for AI.

In you know our.

As a human to make life.

Easier and better for us.

But we have to be careful about it.

And the best?

Places to use it?

Are in a business.

Where you’re using.

10:09

It for research and you have to research, you know, a whole bunch of data in in seconds or.

Or minutes or less time, or in a very short amount of time.

It’s good for sensors.

And it’s good.

For, you know, timers.

Things like that.

Anything that can that’s.

10:25

I.

Think is kind of is mechanical.

Now, I don’t think you should necessarily.

Have a robot that’s AI?

That’s a totally different story, though.

And the reason that I say this is because this week.

We’re bringing.

Back the weed facts.

Segment.

That’s right, we’re bringing back weed facts, baby.

10:40

And that is the.

Center of our weed.

Facts for this week.

Is how AI is improving the cannabis industry so.

Get ready because here.

Come your weed.

Facts for the day, baby.

10:57

Attention cannabis consumer.

So the weave.

Facts for this episode.

Are.

About AI and how it is going to help.

Progress the.

Cannabis industry so I.

Found this article from.

11:12

Cannabis risk manager dot.

Com.

And I’m going to.

Give you the highlights of the article because it was really.

Neat to and then in the IT was really neat to read.

Neat to read and see what they.

Were going to do with it and.

Then we’ll put.

I’ll put the link.

In the show notes.

So that you can check out the full article here, but there’s basically.

11:30

Four major.

Shifts and experts have.

Identified 4 optimizations.

That are being made and integrated by.

A or by integrating.

AI into the industry and it’s going.

To enhance operations.

As well as the.

Consumer experience and of.

Course, this is what.

11:46

They say, and of course.

It will come with the opportunity, it’ll come with.

Opportunities and some challenges.

So the the 1st.

Major shift comes with cultivating cultivation systems.

Generally, there are laborious.

And intensive experience driven.

12:04

Process you have to.

Balance light cycles.

Humidity, nutrients, and genetics to produce consistent.

Yields and quality.

Flour and any.

Producer could tell you that this takes up a lot of.

Time, and there’s a lot of.

Experience that goes into knowing how to do that.

So head growers.

And things can really benefit from.

12:20

These systems, especially if.

You’re new to the industry.

Just out of university or college?

And you can it’ll.

It basically takes away having to learn decades of of of tiny little adjustments to make your product perfect, right?

12:36

And then it can.

Set up predefined parameters.

For your grow up.

And notify your production.

Team at the exact.

Right moment.

To make those adjustments.

Where you would just.

Where normally.

You would need somebody that had so many years of.

Experience they could.

Look at it.

And be like, oh, I know what’s.

12:52

Happening.

So incorporating AI sensors.

Into grow rooms will.

Introduce the predictability.

And consistency right down to when the plants.

Are most vulnerable.

To pests and diseases, which is one of the.

Biggest.

Problems in terms of growing a brand new crop right and having.

13:08

To having to.

Make sure that the yield is right as well.

There’s also the predictive.

Analytics in retail.

That are going to.

Be affected by this.

So basically they use.

Predictive.

Analytics platforms already, but by that analyze purchasing patterns and product preferences and market trends.

13:27

OK, but as they become.

More.

Sophisticated and integrated into.

Point of sale systems.

The they become They’re going to help dispensaries anticipate, demand, optimize.

Inventory and then refine marketing campaigns.

13:42

More accurate, more accurately.

For producers.

So there’s some, like I said it within the box.

Of the parameters.

That you can just define it.

Or you can define.

For it, it’s it’s great at doing that.

But when you let it run Willy nilly.

You never know you.

Might just get like a little shop of horrors weed plant that just starts.

13:59

Ingesting everybody.

Maybe they try to.

Smoke us.

The benefit to the?

Consumer is that.

Recommendation is recommendations because.

AI will be able to suggest products.

Based on their user preference, their desired.

14:14

Effects and even medication, medical.

Conditions in some cases.

And it has potential.

To be placed into apps.

Or wearable.

Devices that people wear.

So that it starts.

To remember record.

And keep the data so that you can you can next.

Time you go into a pot shop.

14:31

You could just easily.

Look at the data, be like Oh yeah, that strain did.

This and that’s what’s happening to me right now.

I have pain in my knee and I need something that’s going to take away the.

Pain.

It’ll be great.

The downside for that will be that the.

People that.

Don’t want to be?

On a.

List and show.

Their ID Guess what, you’re on the biggest list ever, baby.

And then obviously in the.

14:49

Direction of in the.

In the.

Section of quality.

Compliance and control.

There’s going to be, there’s going to be a.

Lot more.

Ability to refine how quickly you can do.

The reporting of things.

15:05

So when you’re getting your shop ready, when you when you have to do your.

Annual, I think.

It’s annual, maybe.

Your reoccurring.

Compliance when you have.

To fill out that.

Paperwork AI can help.

You fill out that.

Paperwork.

It’ll also make sure.

That it’s correct.

15:21

And that.

Everything that you’ve got is what you need so that there’s no missed compliance issues.

There’s no it cuts down on fines and and.

It’ll it’ll really.

Bring down mistakes basically in terms of.

Quality control you.

15:37

Won’t run into.

The issue where people.

Are.

Lying about percentages, putting on bad like wrong labels and things like that.

Miss notifying.

People of what?

Is actually.

In the in the.

15:54

Package that they’re buying right.

So that’s.

Going to be.

Very good.

That’s going to be.

Very beneficial.

It’ll alleviate.

Discrepancies and reduce the.

Potential for non compliance.

16:10

And regulatory fines as well.

I mean, that’s basically what I just said, but that’s what that’s what they’re talking about.

It’ll help with research.

It’ll help.

Refining R and.

D by having AI.

Analyze extensive data clusters trials.

Studies and consumer feedback.

Producers will have a tool to identify new.

16:27

Opportunities quicker.

Yeah, because how long does it take you to go?

Through an article.

AI could do it in like milliseconds right?

It’ll help producers.

Refine and identify cannabinoid and terpene combinations for.

Specific therapeutic outcomes.

Which is clearly beneficial for the consumer.

16:44

I mean, obviously.

And then?

Ultimately AI in.

The R&D phase of production.

Has a multitude of applications.

To better serve.

The industry as a.

Whole.

Helping companies innovate, reduce.

Time reduce time wasted on trial and error and maintain.

Quality.

17:00

So again, going back to.

You know, trying to.

Like.

When you do like test grows and things like that to see if.

You can get a.

Phenotype to work.

That’ll be.

Perfect for that because it will help you.

It will help you in the.

Process of that and potentially cut down time as.

You learn.

So those are your refacs for this week.

17:18

How?

AI is going to help the cannabis industry.

Grow and.

Flourish as a whole.

That’s right, attention.

Cannabis consumer attention attention cannabis consumer Now The thing is with anything like.

This OK?

You’re going to run into issues.

17:33

Where you have to.

Research or you have.

To double check you have to triple.

Check sometimes.

What the AI does for you because.

There’s going to be.

A big learning curve.

Like when AI first.

Came out, everybody thought, Oh my God, we’re just going to.

Throw AI out there and it’s going to be amazing, right well, the.

17:52

AI had a few flaws.

Yeah, that’s right.

AI had a few, some really bad.

Ones and some really.

Funny ones, but it’s.

It’s because of the.

Integration with humans.

That it’s funny and dumb.

OK, because humans don’t.

Want to actually put effort into doing things?

18:09

They just kind of.

Do things because they’re told.

To a lot of the time.

Most people, I think.

Just negate.

The fact that they should put, they should put some time.

And effort into understanding what it.

Is that they’re doing and what they’re.

Using SO in the beginning of AI, these are some of the dumbest things that have.

18:24

Happened to people or that people have used it for or AI fails in general and this is the do for real segment.

Baby dude, for real, for real.

Dude so this is dumb things.

That people have done.

With AI now I’ve.

Got a few of these.

18:40

Instances or stories from.

Around the web.

The first one comes from vice dot.

Com again I will put these in the show notes.

As well.

So you.

Can see them so you can actually go and check out.

The different sites that have.

More than.

Just these ones, but I thought these ones.

18:56

Were kind of the.

Funniest so vice dot.

Com’s the 1st.

One and it’s.

An article called.

Stories for people who asked AI for.

Medical advice A. 60 year old man.

Wanted to reduce salt in his diet.

Chat ChatGPT told him to.

Replace table salt.

With sodium bromide.

19:13

Sodium bromide is a.

Chemical used to clean.

Swimming pools.

He did it.

And for three months.

He was hospitalized with.

Bromide.

Poisoning.

He suffered hallucinations and.

Confusion and his case.

Was documented.

In the Annals of.

Annals the annals of internal medicine clinical cases so he became.

19:34

One of the first.

People, that was.

Documented to have a stupid health.

Problem because of AI.

This one comes.

This one involves potential.

Murder suicide.

OK, so if you don’t, don’t listen to this.

But it was it was dumb, so I had to put it on here.

So at cio.com.

19:51

They had an article.

Called famous analytics.

And an AI and.

AI disasters, so this.

One ChatGPT, allegedly.

Involved in a murder?

Suicide in August of I think.

The year was actually. 20 It was 2025 in August 2020. 5 so.

20:08

Relatively new this.

Wasn’t way back then.

This was new, so according to.

The New York Post report.

ChatGPT.

Have, may have, may have.

Fueled the delusions of.

A former Yahoo manager who killed his mother.

And himself after months of interactions.

With the chat bot.

Whom he called Bobby.

20:25

Stein, Eric.

Solberg, 56, killed his mother, Suzanne Everson Adams. 83 in her home in Greenwich.

Connecticut on August 25.

August 5th, 2020.

Five and then.

Committed suicide shortly after Solberg, who developed illusions that his mother his mother was a Chinese intelligence.

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Agent asset who attempted.

To poison him with.

Psychedelic.

Drugs through his car’s air vents shared.

These thoughts with Bobby for.

Months and the chatbot.

Allegedly.

Agreed with and confirmed Solberg delusions.

20:59

So basically this guy.

Sat around paranoid.

Out of his mind, probably with, you know, some issues that he needed.

To deal with.

And the chat bot told him, yeah, no, go ahead, kill, kill, kill.

Do it.

Just go right ahead.

This one.

Is from BuzzFeed dot.

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Com 10 times AI and robotics have done horrible things.

So this was an AI in a robot.

In a factory, I think yeah, at an at.

An agricultural I can’t.

Speak right now.

At an agricultural produce facility in North.

Korea An.

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Employee in his 40s was inspecting a.

Robot’s sensor operations.

When the machine suddenly.

Malfunctioned.

In a horrific error, the robot.

‘S arm grabbed the man, shoved him against a conveyor belt and crushed his face.

Decent chests he was.

Rushed to the hospital.

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But died shortly after.

Officials believe the robot confused the man with the box of bell Peppers.

And it had been programmed that it.

That it had been.

Programmed.

To handle one report.

From the Korea.

Herald quoted A city official is saying the robot was responsible for lifting boxes of produce, it appears.

22:05

And misidentified the man as a box and grabbed him.

So, yeah, right, maybe.

You should have checked.

That code.

Before you put.

It in there?

Before you before you had robots moving heavy things around.

Or deciding that humans were.

A box of bell Peppers.

When I was saying.

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Sensors.

Earlier I really just meant like little sensors.

That sit on things and.

Sense things, not a robot, OK?

So this one’s from reader.

Sdigest.com.

And it’s called hilarious.

Mistakes made by artificial intelligence.

So.

22:39

Hanson Robotics CEO David.

Hanson and his humanoid humanoid robot Sophia.

Appeared on the CNB.

On CNB CS The pulse.

He himself.

Asked the AI.

What was clearly.

On the.

Mind of many people in the studio.

22:54

Sophia, do you want to?

Destroy humans without hesitation, Sophia smilingly, A tad too broadly.

For our.

For these people’s tastes, responded.

OK, I’ll destroy humans.

Not so bueno.

23:12

Live Science.

Had an article called. 32 times artificial intelligence got it catastrophically.

Wrong a 20. 18 Analysis by the American Civil Liberties Union.

Oh, this is a.

Government one, this one.

‘S kind of.

Good A20. 18 analysts analysis.

23:29

From the American.

Civil liberties.

Union.

Found that Amazon’s Amazon’s recognition AIA.

Part of Amazon Web Services incorrectly identified 28.

Then members of Congress as people.

Who had been arrested?

23:45

The errors came with images of members of both main parties, affecting both men and women and people.

Of color were more.

Likely to be wrongly.

Identified great racist AI right off the bat, baby.

So that’s why we have to fact.

24:00

Check this shit.

You got to make sure that it’s right.

Before you put.

It out there, man.

So last one.

This one’s like an.

Honorable mention, OK.

So vice.com had another.

This was a second.

One I pulled from that same article.

Of. 4 horror stories from people who asked AI for medical.

24:17

Advice a Moroccan man.

Asked ChatGPT.

About a cauliflower.

Like Lesion near his.

Anus.

The bot mentioned hemorrhoids.

And suggested elastic ligation.

A.

Procedure that uses a rubber band to cut off blood.

24:34

Flow to swollen veins.

He attempted it himself with a thread.

What?

People are nuts dude.

Doctors later removed it.

After he.

Arrived at the hospital.

In agony.

As it turned out, the growth wasn’t a hemorrhoid, but a 3 centimeter.

24:51

Genital wart.

Dude.

For real.

Dude for real.

For real dude.

So if we’re.

Learning anything.

From this.

Don’t trust AI, don’t let it be like the.

25:08

End all, be all.

Of whatever it is that you’re.

Doing make sure that you put some effort in to learn.

About the thing that you’re trying to.

Accomplish and also.

If you have medical if you are asking it medical advice, go.

To a doctor AI.

Doesn’t know it’s a It’s a chat robot.

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Don’t, don’t.

Rely on AI.

Those are my thoughts.

Off the stem for this week.

Hope you enjoyed the sesh.

Hope you come back next week with me, Justin Peroni on thoughts.

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Right on that page.

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